The idea of a Restoration of Christ’s New Testament “church” was unoriginal

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Again, to repeat, I'm more interested in what came out of the seed that Jesus planted and how that seed matured and evolved.

[I Have Questions]

And here recently I’ve being lambasted for not seeing a little arrow that represented a link to another post.

Sheesh. I honestly hadn’t put two and two together. Now I have. Believe me! Another mountain out of a molehill.

Regards,
MG

That’s a misrepresentation. You were lambasting a poster for not posting a link to a quote they had provided. You lambasted them twice. Then it was pointed out to you that the little arrow at the top of the quoted piece WAS a link. I understand that you might have been embarrassed by your own stupidity in calling someone out incorrectly (for which you have yet to apologise), but someone pointing out your error, was not you being “lambasted”.

[PseudoPaul]

Again, to repeat, I'm more interested in what came out of the seed that Jesus planted and how that seed matured and evolved.

Regards,
MG

I'd argue that all of Christianity is basically the formalized ignoring of most of what Jesus taught, and focusing instead on what his followers later interpreted as the meaning behind his death. The term is vampire Christianity - Christianity is only interested in Jesus for his blood.

Now in fairness some traditions are better than others at least at remembering PART of what Jesus taught. But on the whole I'd have to think if Jesus were alive today he would be scandalized at the religion that has been created in his name.

[I Have Questions]

Again, to repeat, I'm more interested in what came out of the seed that Jesus planted and how that seed matured and evolved.

Regards,
MG

I'd argue that all of Christianity is basically the formalized ignoring of most of what Jesus taught, and focusing instead on what his followers later interpreted as the meaning behind his death. The term is vampire Christianity - Christianity is only interested in Jesus for his blood.

Now in fairness some traditions are better than others at least at remembering PART of what Jesus taught. But on the whole I'd have to think if Jesus were alive today he would be scandalized at the religion that has been created in his name.

I’m more interested in hearing MG articulate what it was that Jesus Christ taught and/or set up that only the SLC LDS Church has restored.

[MG 2.0]

... if Jesus were alive today he would be scandalized at the religion that has been created in his name.

Do you think He is alive today? And if the answer is yes, would you not think that there would be a religion that would carry His name throughout the world doing so in His name? And that a church claiming to be His would carry His name?

If not, what do you see the modern day outgrowth of the resurrected Christ (if you believe He is alive)? It seems to me that if Jesus was indeed the Christ that the seed He planted would be represented on the earth in a way that it can continue to spread forth and grow.

Wouldn't you think?

Is Jesus dead or alive? Important question.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

... if Jesus were alive today he would be scandalized at the religion that has been created in his name.

Do you think He is alive today? And if the answer is yes, would you not think that there would be a religion that would carry His name throughout the world doing so in His name? And that a church claiming to be His would carry His name?

If not, what do you see the modern day outgrowth of the resurrected Christ (if you believe He is alive)? It seems to me that if Jesus was indeed the Christ that the seed He planted would be represented on the earth in a way that it can continue to spread forth and grow.

Wouldn't you think?

Is Jesus dead or alive? Important question.

Regards,
MG

I’m reasonably confident that the modern day outgrowth of the resurrected Christ would not have recently been fined $5,000,000 for deliberate financial misconduct, in a effort to try and hide funds from members and the SEC using a shell company scheme that coerced innocent members into making fraudulent statements.

Jesus may be alive, he may be dead, but he’s definitely not running the SLC LDS Church.

[Res Ipsa]

Again, to repeat, I'm more interested in what came out of the seed that Jesus planted and how that seed matured and evolved.

Regards,
MG

I'd argue that all of Christianity is basically the formalized ignoring of most of what Jesus taught, and focusing instead on what his followers later interpreted as the meaning behind his death. The term is vampire Christianity - Christianity is only interested in Jesus for his blood.

Now in fairness some traditions are better than others at least at remembering PART of what Jesus taught. But on the whole I'd have to think if Jesus were alive today he would be scandalized at the religion that has been created in his name.

I come out at about the same place. Modern Christianity ignores Jesus’s instructions about how his followers should live their lives. I’d never heard the term “vampire Christianity,” but it fits.

[MG 2.0]

I'd argue that all of Christianity is basically the formalized ignoring of most of what Jesus taught, and focusing instead on what his followers later interpreted as the meaning behind his death. The term is vampire Christianity - Christianity is only interested in Jesus for his blood.

Now in fairness some traditions are better than others at least at remembering PART of what Jesus taught. But on the whole I'd have to think if Jesus were alive today he would be scandalized at the religion that has been created in his name.

I come out at about the same place. Modern Christianity ignores Jesus’s instructions about how his followers should live their lives. I’d never heard the term “vampire Christianity,” but it fits.

I suppose what I find interesting is that non believers will frequently say, “If Jesus were alive/here” and then point out what He would think, what He would do, how He would judge, etc…as though they know the purposes and mind of Jesus from a book that they themselves distrust to give an accurate/complete description of Him and what He taught in its entirety, etc.

This, as THOUGH He were alive and resurrected in the flesh. And yet they don’t hold that belief in many instances. I’m not sure I understand that.

I hear folks saying what he would NOT do. Still, how do they know? It’s easy, I guess, to put words and actions into the mouth/mind of someone you think has been dead for 2000 years or didn’t exist in the first place.

A made up Jesus.

Regards,
MG

[Limnor]

It’s easy, I guess, to put words and actions into the mouth/mind of someone you think has been dead for 2000 years or didn’t exist in the first place.

A made up Jesus.

Regards,
MG

It’s funny you’d say that, because that’s precisely the literary mechanism my explanation describes.

The Book of Mormon itself is a long exercise in “putting words into the mouths of the dead.”

[MG 2.0]

It’s easy, I guess, to put words and actions into the mouth/mind of someone you think has been dead for 2000 years or didn’t exist in the first place.

A made up Jesus.

Regards,
MG

It’s funny you’d say that, because that’s precisely the literary mechanism my explanation describes.

The Book of Mormon itself is a long exercise in “putting words into the mouths of the dead.”

Do you believe in or have faith/hope that Jesus Christ was literally resurrected from the dead and exists/lives today?

Regards,
MG