Senior free labour provider dies whilst mowing a church lawn

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Re: Senior free labour provider dies whilst mowing a church lawn

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:58 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:05 pm


Right, Sledge and I have both mentioned this. It doesn't answer the question of where we came from. It says we didn't come from anywhere. We weren't created for any purpose. We just happen to exist. Now God also wasn't created, but God is defined as what's necessary. It's going to be quite a rework of the cosmological argument to make room for an infinite number of necessary causal agents.

If Mormons wish to endorse an atheistic universe where we abandon the big questions, I'm open for that. But MG can't brag both about believing in a Big God who created everything and gave us purpose and also believe that we are uncreated beings at the same time.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:45 pm
Sledge,

Let’s be honest—the idea that we just happen to exist is the philosophical equivalent of shrugging your shoulders and walking away from a difficult puzzle. It's a remarkably lazy answer to the most profound question, especially from a religion that claims to have all the answers - like Mormonism.

And while defining God as a necessary causal agent is all well and good, trying to make room for an infinite number of necessary causal agents sounds less like a theology and more like trying to fit an infinite number of clowns into an already crowded cosmic clown car.

I bet you’re glad you’re no longer Mormon, or were you lying about that too?
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I’ve lost track of who is who among sock puppets…. Am I supposed to be Sledge?

HoH = MG?

I confess I am not “Sledge” if that was the belief lol
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:05 pm
Hound wrote:The way it was conveyed to me is that we are all forms of intelligence and have been for eternity.
Right, Sledge and I have both mentioned this. It doesn't answer the question of where we came from. It says we didn't come from anywhere. We weren't created for any purpose. We just happen to exist. Now God also wasn't created, but God is defined as what's necessary. It's going to be quite a rework of the cosmological argument to make room for an infinite number of necessary causal agents.

If Mormons wish to endorse an atheistic universe where we abandon the big questions, I'm open for that. But MG can't brag both about believing in a Big God who created everything and gave us purpose and also believe that we are uncreated beings at the same time.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:05 pm
If Mormons wish to endorse an atheistic universe where we abandon the big questions, I'm open to that. But MG can't brag about both believing in a Big God who created everything and gave us purpose, and also believing that we are uncreated beings at the same time.
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Limnor wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 10:06 pm
I’ve lost track of who is who among sock puppets…. Am I supposed to be Sledge?

HoH = MG?

I confess I am not “Sledge” if that was the belief lol
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Marcus wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 5:06 pm
Limnor wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 10:06 pm
I’ve lost track of who is who among sock puppets…. Am I supposed to be Sledge?

HoH = MG?

I confess I am not “Sledge” if that was the belief lol
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The board needs some sort of shibboleth to ID socks
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Limnor wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:57 pm
The board needs some sort of shibboleth to ID socks
Drat - although I'm not a sock, I can't say "sibboleth", I mean "skibboleth", I mean ... Dang - I guess I'm going to be slain at the passages of Jordan :(
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I considered playing along as of if I were a sock for Gadianton but matching his writing style was too challenging lol
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