Discussion of the ''DCP / plagiarism'' thread

[_Lemmie]

I realize that according to Lemmie’s “rainbow post” (as Ceeboo noted..and I have to say, I liked the color coordination. It made things easier to read. ), she felt that some of Dan’s corrections were inadequate.

please note, that was not my post. I was quoting a post from an earlier thread.

[_Ceeboo]

[_I have a question]

I realize that according to Lemmie’s “rainbow post” (as Ceeboo noted..and I have to say, I liked the color coordination. It made things easier to read. ), she felt that some of Dan’s corrections were inadequate.

please note, that was not my post. I was quoting a post from an earlier thread.

Unintentional plagiarism Lemmie?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

Tom,

Man, you make me want to post my two finds where he does the same exact things to his colleagues. I'll think about it.

- Doc

I would actually like to read what you have.

[_I have a question]

Here you go Dan...

https://addictionrecovery.LDS.org/?lang=eng

...you’re welcome.

[_moksha]

It's not like Dr. Peterson was caught displaying bare shoulders. Some things BYU can tolerate and other things must be dealt with in a heavy-handed way. I challenge you to show one instance where Dr. Peterson consumed powdered donuts along with a diet coke.

Remember, the BYU administration is not run by Sadducees.

[_MsJack]

It's not like Dr. Peterson was caught displaying bare shoulders.

He also didn't start covertly inducting students into some new strain of fundamentalist Mormonism centered around Hugh Nibley, so his job's probably fine.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

I Have A Question:
This would be embarrassing for a lay person to be caught doing, for a BYU Professor to be at it...well, Wow, just Wow. You’ve even made it easy for him to correct and he STILL won’t make it right. Truly staggering and utterly rebuts any defence of unintentionality that JP has tried to suggest.

The only thing I can think of as far as his mindset is that since this is a blog he is posting on, it is less formal than a full-fledged article published for the School, or a literary publication that folks actually pay for. The reason I mention this is because he brought it up himself in one of his Mea Cupla articles.

Maybe he doesn’t feel that his documentation has to be as formal due to the nature of this being a blog. Therefore, it doesn’t have to follow all of the standardized rules.

This is all conjecture on my part. I’m just throwing it out there as a guess at this point.

If this is, indeed the case, then he needs to study the rules of all of this a lot more intently before writing articles that contain notes from other authors.

Kish mentioned something in an earlier post about the actual work product that I found interesting. Kish mentioned that it appeared obvious that Dan had an overall lack of knowledge when it came to the scientific subject he was writing on. I believe that is true, which is why, I’m sure, he took so many notes from other authors.

I had not even read the articles mentioned before this thread appeared because the subject matter held little interest to me.

Going forward, I would definitely suggest that Dan stays away from topics that he has little or limited knowledge of in order to avoid getting caught in this kind of serious trap again.

[_I have a question]

If this is, indeed the case, then he needs to study the rules of all of this a lot more intently before writing articles that contain notes from other authors.

He’s. A. Professor....

Going forward, I would definitely suggest that Dan stays away from topics that he has little or limited knowledge of in order to avoid getting caught in this kind of serious trap again.

Trap? It’s not his lack of knowledge that’s the problem, it’s his (ongoing, repeated) lack of attribution for other peoples knowledge and effort, even though he’s been caught and is still getting caught, red handed. His Mea Culpa’s are worthless, because there has been no subsequent correction of behaviour.

Are you really this dumb, or simply blinded by your ‘friendship’?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

If this is, indeed the case, then he needs to study the rules of all of this a lot more intently before writing articles that contain notes from other authors.

He’s. A. Professor....

Going forward, I would definitely suggest that Dan stays away from topics that he has little or limited knowledge of in order to avoid getting caught in this kind of serious trap again.

Trap? It’s not his lack of knowledge that’s the problem, it’s his (ongoing, repeated) lack of attribution for other peoples knowledge and effort, even though he’s been caught and is still getting caught, red handed. His Mea Culpa’s are worthless, because there has been no subsequent correction of behaviour.

Are you really this dumb, or simply blinded by your ‘friendship’?

No need to get nasty. I’ve been respectful to you. I expect the same in return.

I didn’t say that his Mea Cupla made everything right. YOU obviously aren’t reading MY POSTS correctly. I could make a nasty comment about your lack of reading comprehension but I’ll refrain.

What has been pointed out by both Lemmie and Tom is that he isn’t providing all of the correct quotation marks, etc. even though he is going back and making general attributions. My point is that he might not have felt that was necessary considering that these articles were written on an informal blog.

Yes, he is a Professor. But not a Professor of formal writing. Is this an excuse? I never said it was. All I did was point out his possible mindset, and made a suggestion of what he could do going forward to avoid making the same errors.