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Doctrine and Covenants Commentary, The Deseret News Press, 1945, p. 584, HYRUM M. SMITH OF THE COUNCIL OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES wrote:
"The Lamanites, or Indians, are just as much the children of our Father and God as we are. So also are the Africans. But we are also the children of adoption through obedience to the gospel of His Son. Why are so many of the inhabitants of the Earth cursed with a skin of blackness? It comes in consequence of their fathers rejecting the power of the Holy Priesthood, and the law of God. They will go down to death And when all the rest of the children have received their blessings in the Holy Priesthood, then that curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will then come up and possess the Priesthood and receive all the blessings which we are now entitled to" (Brigham Young, Jour. of Dis., Vol XI,. p. 272).
This official statement and EXPLANATION was tendered by a member of the Quorum of the Twelve who quoted President Brigham Young while pontificating the virtues of the Doctrine and Covenants of the Church. This occurred 33 years before President Kimball was forced to relent and allow blacks to hold the priesthood insomuch as through the adoption people with black skin can enter the priesthood-club, someday. Every member of the Church believed this was inspired *doctrine* of the Church.

But apologetic Mormons today including lying leaders such as (R. Nelson=Satan) are liars for the Lord as they grope and bend over like the whores they are in playing silly religious games! Russel Nelson is a whore for the Lord!

Shame on the Mormons! Mormonism *is* racism!

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The African Problem

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It was impossible for Mormon missionaries to go to Africa and raise the standard of a universal Christian salvation to people of all races because Mormonism *was* based on principles of racism and the doctrine that God is a respecter of persons when it comes to the color of skin. This was quite a problem for Mormons seeking converts in Africa.

General Conference, Oct 1947, ELDER RICHARD E. FOLLAND, former President of the South African Mission wrote:Now I would like to just tell you a word or two about our mission. We have about seventeen hundred members in the South African Mission. We have about two million white people to work with — or Europeans, as we call them down there. There are about eight million of the non-Europeans, or the colored races. So that it is quite a problem for some of our missionaries, and particularly for some of our converts.

Universal salvation was taught by Jesus Christ and his disciples in the New Testament. But this was a problem for the Mormons because Africans were not permitted to partake of salvation through administration of the priesthood and temple ordinances. Blacks were banned from the priesthood and refused admittance into the Mormon temple. Nothing could be construed as more unchristian than this despicable and cruel practice which the Mormons in their self-righteous pride held like a badge of honor. Although the Mormons claimed to highlight enlightenment of Christianity, but in reality they represented a white supremacist organization not reflective of universal salvation and the blessings that flow therefrom.

Saint Peter (1 Peter 2) taught how Christians must lay aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies. Christians were likened as newborn babes in need of the sincere milk who were chosen of God, and precious. Christ was likened as the chief corner stone of the temple or the head of the corner in which all the members were joined together as one.

1 Peter 2:5 wrote:Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

But we see how Mormonism stumbled before Christ's spiritual temple in which for them, Jesus is a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word. The Mormons rejected the universal love that Christ offered by allowing all people or the human race to become part of the temple and enjoy fellowship with Christ:

1 Peter 2:9 wrote:But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Universal salvation and Christian fellowship was also taught by the apostle Paul which is something the Mormons failed to understand when forming their false restoration of God's priesthood build upon principles of racism and exclusion:

Ephesians 2:19-22 wrote:Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
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Re: The African Problem

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Shulem wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:44 pm
It was impossible for Mormon missionaries to go to Africa and raise the standard of a universal Christian salvation to people of all races because Mormonism *was* based on principles of racism and the doctrine that God is a respecter of persons when it comes to the color of skin. This was quite a problem for Mormons seeking converts in Africa.
Isn't this more of a delayed problem for when Africans become more acquainted with Church doctrine and history? It's not like the young Missionaries will present them with complete information when giving their sales pitch. I doubt non-LDS historians are putting out any information in African languages. By then, LDS apologists may have perfected their Hypno-Sedative sprays.
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Receive the Holy Ghost

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Dear readers:

This post features a special amalgamation of statements made previously in this thread from General Authorities of the Church while in General Conference. The voice of the Lord or the spooky action of the Holy Ghost® uttered what all saints faithfully believed was the inspired mind and interpretation of God about white skin vs. dark skin. The messages given in General Conference were carefully prepared and crafted by leaders of the Church who prepared themselves through prayer and fasting to deliver teachings believed by the entire church to be inspiration given from the Spirit®.


Whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same. wrote:
  • They lived upon this continent for a few years and then they divided and subdivided, and conflicts arose, and a curse was placed upon some of these people and a dark skin was the result of this curse.
  • Those who followed Laman and Lemuel because of their wilfulness were cursed with a dark skin and later became known as Indians. They lost their written language. They retained the story of their former lives and the lives of their parents by tradition. Nephi's people remained white and as long as they honored God and obeyed him were marvelously blessed....Then came a period of wickedness and the destruction of the white race by the Lamanites.
  • Because of the wickedness of a part of the people of Lehi, they were cursed with a black skin and became a degraded and a loathsome people. These were called Lamanites, after their first leader in rebellion.
  • I trust, my brethren and sisters, that the spirit that has characterized this gathering, and the other sessions of this conference, may continue to the end, and that I may be a partaker of it to the extent that my tongue may be loosed and that the inspiration of the Lord may flow through me, during the time I stand here....Because, they refused to keep the commandments of God, because they disobeyed the law and determined to be a law unto themselves, they retrograded and were cursed with a dark skin and became the unfortunate race that wandered over this great western hemisphere for generations, before the coming of the white man.
  • Why some have lovely white-skin faces — others born in colored races;
  • The Hawaiian people have a dark skin, but their hearts are white
  • As they all sat around the mat and heard the voice of this missionary from Utah, they were transfigured before George Q. Cannon, and he saw ninety-seven of them become white, and three of them remained dark. He did not understand. He did not know why it was that three of them would remain dark and all the rest should become light. He received a partial answer to this manifestation when it was learned that ninety-seven of those people in meeting at this time joined the Church, became devout members, lived and died Latter-day Saints, while three of them never did. It is said that they will become a white and delightsome people.

Let us hereby rebuke the Holy Ghost spoken through leaders of the Church!

Shut your mouth, Spirit! Depart!

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"Religion and Theology — Some of the Fruits of the Spirit."

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DESERET SUNDAY SCHOOL UNION, Its Semi-Annual Conference, Held in the Tabernacle, Sunday Evening, April 9, 1905. wrote:
The regular semi-annual conference of the Sunday schools of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, convened in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Sunday evening, April 9, 1905, at 7 o'clock, General Superintendent Joseph F. Smith presiding.

Present: Of the general superintendency, Joseph F. Smith, George Reynolds, Joseph M. Tanner; most of the members of the Deseret Sunday School Union Board, several Apostles, and a congregation which taxed the capacity of the Tabernacle.
PRESIDENT JOSEPH F. SMITH. wrote:I believe in the example that was set by the illustrious father of our country. On one occasion, it is told of him, as he was passing along with some of his aides, dressed in his uniform as general of the armies of the United States, that he met a colored man. The colored man, most reverently and courteously took off his hat and made a low bow to the general. The general took off his hat and bowed as courteously to the colored man. His associate generals remonstrated with him. They said, "General, it is beneath your dignity to bow to a negro." General Washington turned to them and said, "Gentlemen, I cannot afford to have a negro outdo me in courtesy." So it would be well for us as Latter-day Saints, and as the children of the Latter-day Saints, and as the teachers of the children of this people, to teach courtesy and respect toward all mankind, and implant kindness in the hearts of our children towards the unfortunate especially. There is too little of it. I go along the street here and I see little boys with cigarettes in their mouths; I actually see young men, just budding into manhood with nasty stinking old pipes in their mouths, or with cigars between their teeth, as they walk along the streets. I see boys walk with beautiful young ladies on the sidewalks, smoking their cigars. I think it is contemptible to see boys with cigarettes and pipes and cigars in their mouths, puffing their infamous smudge into the faces of beautiful women. It is abominable. And when I see a man, a boy especially, with a cigar or a pipe in his mouth— the pipe is the worse, it stinks worse and it is. more poisonous, a great deal, than the cigar is, although I have never tried either of them very much; but when I meet a youth with these attachments, I feel that if I could be justified under any circumstances in passing anyone by with contempt, they are the fellows that I would pass with contempt. I never like to bow or take off my hat to a boy or a young man with a cigar or a cigarette in his mouth. I don't like to bow to a cigarette. I don't like to bow and pay deference to a nasty old stinking tobacco pipe. I think that is more condescending by far than to bow to a courteous gentlemanly man who is unfortunate enough to be colored with a black skin. I have seen many polished gentlemen in my life who have been unfortunate enough not to be white, that is in their skin; but in their hearts and in their manners, in their courtesy and conduct, they were far superior to many of their boasting white brothers.

Wow, just wow. That's from the racist President of the Mormon church who values white skin over black. And this is supposed to reflect fruits of the Spirit?

So, from Religion and Theology, we get this:

1) "Unfortunate enough to be colored with a black skin"
2) "Unfortunate enough not to be white, that is in their skin"

After making the above statement, President Smith wraps his talk up and concludes with:

PRESIDENT JOSEPH F. SMITH. wrote:May the Lord guide you by His Spirit. Remember this, that the great difference between the theology that we have been hearing of and true religion is this, that the fruits of the Spirit of God— the fruits of the spirit of true religion....God bless us and help us to become so; worthy, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus. Amen.

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Priesthood Worthiness

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Christian Priesthood:
1 Timothy 3:1-12 wrote: This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Mormon Priesthood:
Mormonism wrote:Must have white skin; negros need not apply. Darkies not allowed in the temple and are therefore barred. Black skinned men are banned from the priesthood. It's okay to call a black man a "nigger" in General Conference or anywhere for that matter.
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