Hi MG 2.0 you may have missed my question, so here it is again. What did the Lehites use to trade with?
I saw it. I didn’t have a solid answer.
I wasn’t there 2600 hundred years ago (can you imagine how far back in time that was? Really?) and really don’t know what goods and/or services they may have had to offer. What their relationships with others might have been, etc.
Or even if that’s what revolved around the boat/ship Nephi built. We just don’t know.
In my mind ‘the restoration’ plays an important part in God’s work on the earth but is in no way ALL his work.
Understood.
Everyone is a child of God
Not really, from my view. While we are all created in the image of our Creator/God, we are not all the children of God. We can become the adopted children of God and this adoption has nothing to do with our works or our merit. It has everything to do with being purchased, as broken as we were/are, by the sacrificial blood of God. We were all bought, it's up to each and every one of us to consider/recognize that and accept the path that has already been provided for us - A path that none of us could create - A path that takes us back to a right standing relationship with our Creator/King.
In my mind ‘the restoration’ plays an important part in God’s work on the earth but is in no way ALL his work.
Understood.
Everyone is a child of God
Not really, from my view. While we are all created in the image of our Creator/God, we are not all the children of God. We can become the adopted children of God and this adoption has nothing to do with our works or our merit. It has everything to do with being purchased, as broken as we were/are, by the sacrificial blood of God. We were all bought, it's up to each and every one of us to consider/recognize that and accept the path that has already been provided for us - A path that none of us could create - A path that takes us back to a right standing relationship with our Creator/King.
Thank you for your thoughts.
You're welcome and thanks for yours as well.
Hey ceeboo, while you’re here I’d like to understand your views in regards to those millions and millions of people born on earth that never have the opportunity to “consider/recognize” that they are and/or have been “purchased…by the sacrificial blood of God”. A large portion of humanity: past, present, and future. Are they lost? Are they saved even though they may not have accepted Christ as their Savior?
In the LDS Church we believe that ALL mankind can be saved and receive a kingdom of glory through the works, mission/atonement, and mercy/grace of Jesus Christ. Even those that never accepted him as Lord or were lukewarm in their faith.
Hi MG 2.0 you may have missed my question, so here it is again. What did the Lehites use to trade with?
…and really don’t know what goods and/or services they may have had to offer.
Yes we do. It’s explained in the Book of Mormon. You should read it sometime.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
…and really don’t know what goods and/or services they may have had to offer.
Yes we do. It’s explained in the Book of Mormon. You should read it sometime.
Are you referring to 1 Nephi 2:4 or 1 Nephi 3:22-23?
If so, are you able to determine whether they took valuables along with them? Or are you relying on the possibility that Nephi and others might have had skills in craftsmanship to offer?
I said millions AND millions. A LOT. Gosh, Doc, we have large swaths of humanity who have never had an opportunity to accept Jesus Christ. You know that.
I’m interested in how some other forms of Christianity allow for that fact.
That’s why I am interested in getting one person’s belief/understanding in how that may all pan out.
I said millions AND millions. A LOT. Gosh, Doc, we have large swaths of humanity who have never had an opportunity to accept Jesus Christ. You know that.
I’m interested in how some other forms of Christianity allow for that fact.
That’s why I am interested in getting one person’s belief/understanding in how that may all pan out.
Ceeboo is here, so I thought I’d ask.
Regards,
MG
Wouldn’t “millions” also be “millions and millions”? How big a “swaths of humanity” are we talking about here?
I've tried listening to Tad Callister's talks before but found them frustrating due to his conclusions and tone, which seemed to imply that the topics he discussed should be self-evident to everyone.
He might come across that way. He spent years as a tax attorney. His expertise in this area no doubt required a precise and analytical approach, traits that likely served him well as he has argued in behalf of the Book of Mormon and its veracity as the word of God and revealed scripture in our day.
I said millions AND millions. A LOT. Gosh, Doc, we have large swaths of humanity who have never had an opportunity to accept Jesus Christ. You know that.
I’m interested in how some other forms of Christianity allow for that fact.
That’s why I am interested in getting one person’s belief/understanding in how that may all pan out.
Ceeboo is here, so I thought I’d ask.
Regards,
MG
Wouldn’t “millions” also be “millions and millions”? How big a “swaths of humanity” are we talking about here?
- Doc
Technically, saying "millions" and "millions and millions" both refer to large quantities, but there can be a slight difference in emphasis and perception:
- **"Millions":** This term is used to indicate a quantity in the range of 1,000,000 to 999,999,999. It gives an idea of a large number without specifying an exact amount.
- **"Millions and millions":** This phrase is often used to emphasize an even larger quantity, possibly exceeding the lower end of the "millions" range. It can be interpreted as a more casual or conversational way to express an extensive or overwhelming quantity.
However, in terms of a precise numerical value, "millions" and "millions and millions" can overlap and may not necessarily denote different amounts. The context in which these terms are used plays a role in determining the intended meaning.
—Pi A.I.
Like I said, A lot…and a lot.
A lot of people have not either heard of or accepted the gospel of Jesus Christ while they have lived on the earth. I’m interested in how various Christians deal with that and I’m hoping ceeboo can add his/her opinion. (Sorry ceeboo, I don’t know if you are male or female).
