Questions about BYU

[_maklelan]

Sort of like what we learn in the Gospel Doctrine class. Selected scripture to reaffirm some unique point in past LDS teachings, but we won't really study the New Testament with any depth this year.

You would if you were in my class.

[_The Dude]

I got my BS at BYU, and there were some really great things about the university, all of them in spite of the overt Mormon-ness of the place. I had a religion class from Reed Benson and I recall a testimony or two. There was a D&C class where the exams were so freekin' easy that the difference between an A and a B turned out to be just a couple points in the 90th percentile. I had an upper division biology professor who called evolution "evil-lution" and went to extreme lengths to work gospel principles into his lectures. So lame.

[_maklelan]

I got my BS at BYU, and there were some really great things about the university, all of them in spite of the overt Mormon-ness of the place. I had a religion class from Reed Benson and I recall a testimony or two. There was a D&C class where the exams were so freekin' easy that the difference between an A and a B turned out to be just a couple points in the 90th percentile. I had an upper division biology professor who called evolution "evil-lution" and went to extreme lengths to work gospel principles into his lectures. So lame.

It's almost the opposite with Biology now. I published an editorial cartoon about teaching the evolution of man at BYU and suddenly the entire Biology department had my e-mail address and was making their feelings about the non-stance of the church known.

[_Bond...James Bond]

Bond,

There needs to be some clarifications on what constitutes real work. The difficulty just depends on the teacher like any other class. Some you walk in and get an A. Others you have to study or worse, memorize. I don't think religion classes at BYU are harder or easier than any other humanities type classes. The more important aspect of the question of "real work" is what you study. For most the classes the institute manuals are the texts. After nearly acheiving a minor in religious studies, you won't have learned a single thing about critical method and you'll know less than a student who took a 1 credit hour class and got a C at just about any Bible school. The study is entirely faith promoting. You might learn interesting things about history you didn't know but almost always in a Sunday School context.

In my experience real work usually means some type of writing. Lectures with a few multiple choice tests--->easy. But that's my definition. I'm sure some people struggle through every class.

And of course the teacher is the key factor in the quality of a class.

Good teacher==good class.
Bad teacher==pain in the (cl)ass

Bond

[_Bond...James Bond]

I got my BS at BYU, and there were some really great things about the university, all of them in spite of the overt Mormon-ness of the place. I had a religion class from Reed Benson and I recall a testimony or two. There was a D&C class where the exams were so freekin' easy that the difference between an A and a B turned out to be just a couple points in the 90th percentile. I had an upper division biology professor who called evolution "evil-lution" and went to extreme lengths to work gospel principles into his lectures. So lame.

emphasis added.

Just had to Bold that cause it gave me a laugh.

And I think people get what they want out of college. Even if people have to take tough classes or classes they think are crazy or they have to deal with ideas they don't agree with, people can still have a good time and meet good people. The college experience and college attitudes can shine through anywhere==no matter how many rules and regulations and policies "The Man" thinks up to control the student body.

Bond

[_Yoda]

I got my BS at BYU, and there were some really great things about the university, all of them in spite of the overt Mormon-ness of the place. I had a religion class from Reed Benson and I recall a testimony or two. There was a D&C class where the exams were so freekin' easy that the difference between an A and a B turned out to be just a couple points in the 90th percentile. I had an upper division biology professor who called evolution "evil-lution" and went to extreme lengths to work gospel principles into his lectures. So lame.

emphasis added.

Just had to Bold that cause it gave me a laugh.

And I think people get what they want out of college. Even if people have to take tough classes or classes they think are crazy or they have to deal with ideas they don't agree with, people can still have a good time and meet good people. The college experience and college attitudes can shine through anywhere==no matter how many rules and regulations and policies "The Man" thinks up to control the student body.

Bond

So which is worse....a BS, a BA, or a BM? LOL

(I have a BM from the Y---Bachelor of Music)

[_ajax18]

My typical quiz in Mission preparation at BYU-H

T or F The purpose of missionary work is to bring souls to Christ through baptism and confirmation.

Then the professor said, "Does that sound true? It is.

I got a B on my 300 level Globalization of the Church class. The professors comment was that my paper was too mechanical and lacked personal experiences and testimony. I was falling away from their line of thinking by my senior year apparently. One 20 page paper a semester, that basically could have been cut and paste in under half an hour.

I really enjoyed the philosophy classes there, though I'm sure the Brethren had a close eye on them. The fact that they did this alone meant we were talkiing about interesting stuff. [/i]

[_Mercury]

There are several religion classes that must be taken. This shows all the core requirements, including religion classes:

http://saas.BYU.edu/classSchedule/fall/ ... spx?lms=21

I've taken all of them and I have never once heard a testimony in any of the classes. Dr. Pike, in fact, never discusses an LDS doctrie or belief without first explaining that it is LDS and explaining what other religions believe as well.

Jeez,

If I'm reading the link correctly, you have to take 4 classes of doctrinal foundation and another 3-4 courses of religion electives. On the other hand, you can graduate after only 2 science and 2 math classes. Misplaced priorities perhaps?

Bond

That's what it was when I was there. Misplaced priorities? I think not. Look at all the scriptorians they've graduated, including yours truly.

If you are not studying scripture there is no reason to have so many classes in that subject area.

[_Gazelam]

Was the McConkie who taught your class Joseph Fielding McConkie?

That was my mission president.

And yes, the Catholic Church is the Mother whore of the Earth. (1 Nephi 14) From whom spawned the countless apostate christian churchs. But that's a harsh thing to say, so we usually just whisper it amongst ourselves.

Gaz

[_Mercury]

Was the McConkie who taught your class Joseph Fielding McConkie?

That was my mission president.

And yes, the Catholic Church is the Mother whore of the Earth. (1 Nephi 14) From whom spawned the countless apostate christian churchs. But that's a harsh thing to say, so we usually just whisper it amongst ourselves.

Gaz

Considering that there is nothing historically categorized as original christianity that belief is humorous on numerous levels.