BKP's latest rant: Evils of TV and Teased Hair ....

[_silentkid]

Runtu: LOL. That quote should be stitched into all new garment tops. I love how Hinckley says they're expected to conform. Dress like us, act like us, pray like us (bless the food that it may nourish and strengthen...), and you too can be happy. Conforming to some Mormon standard of appearance was always a big issue for me before I left the church. Talks like this recent one from BKP make me remember just how shallow and unaccepting Mormon conformity can be.

[Analytics]

Come on Asbestosman, you're a TBM - let us know what you thought of his talk.

Mostly Harmless.

In other words: He was talking out of his ass, but I'm not going to speak evil of the lord's anointed.

Am I right? Or am I right?

In other words, I was trying to be a little funny by referring to Douglas Adams famous Hitchhiker's trilogy of books. Mostly Harmless is book five and referrs to the entry in the guide regarding Earth.

It is also true that I have no intention of speaking evil of Elder Packer as I have promised not to. That doesn't mean he's beyond reproach. If you haven't made that promise, go ahead and reproach him all you want.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostly_harmless#Explanation_of_the_novel.27s_title

[_Jason Bourne]

A quote I heard many, many years ago that still rings true for me...

It is better to BE good, than to SEEM good.

I struggle with the emphasis on appearance whether it be from church leaders (any church) or from the media... this need to have people look a certain way, appear a certain way, or seem a certain way, is uncomfortable to me.

I do believe the cyber/media world is unhealthy to a large degree. I believe we need the creative, unique, decent, efforts of young people throughout the world to create the changes necessary for our species to continue...

I just see little on TV that inspires, uplifts, encourages goodness, or adds anything beneficial to humanity or our world.

I LOVE the young people today... I think they are brilliant, thoughtful, creative, ingenious, and curious.... I hope they will use this amazing energy and ability to bring forth a future of goodness, care, and a deeper sense of compassion.

~dancer~

Ted Bundy was a fine looking clean cut fellow.

[_Jason Bourne]

And they've recently made the bottom part of the garment longer so folks have to wear longer shorts.

They have? Guess I have not bought any lately.

[_Who Knows]

If you haven't made that promise, go ahead and reproach him all you want.

I made the promise - luckily I did it post-1990, so I don't have to worry about decapitation or disembowelment as consequences.

[_asbestosman]

If you haven't made that promise, go ahead and reproach him all you want.

I made the promise - luckily I did it post-1990, so I don't have to worry about decapitation or disembowelment as consequences.

Because without those consequences, reneging on your word is so much better . . .

Alright, I'm not trying to hold you to that promise or smear your name. If you truly believe there's a higher moral principle that should be cause to break it then go ahead. I think, for example, that King Herod should not have kept his promise which made him behead John the Baptist (see Mathew 14).

[_truth dancer]

"People think in a very critical way before they come into this Church. When they come into this Church they’re expected to conform. And they find happiness in that conformity." --Gordon B. Hinckley

Wow!

I don't recall ever hearing this quote before.

It REALLY speaks to me. I think this quote pretty much summarizes my difficulty with the church.

I believe with all my heart and mind, the universe thrives on the unique, individual gifts. talents, expression, and creativity of each person.

I think thwarting, destroying, or ignoring the uniqueness of each person is as "evil" as it gets.... (based on my dfn of evil which is: that which harms or damages the unfolding and developing beauty and awareness of the universe). :-)

I truly feel 'conformity' is unhealthy for the individual and our world.

~dancer~

[_asbestosman]

I believe with all my heart and mind, the universe thrives on the unique, individual gifts. talents, expression, and creativity of each person.

If everyone else is already unique, could someone demonstrate their uniqueness by conforming? ;)

(That's what my father always told me about rebel cultures trying to assert their independance and uniqueness--ironically they are conforming, but just to a different leader).

[Anonymous]

Oh good Lord, do these old men have NOTHING better to do than try to control the every breath of the LDS?

There's only so much 100 billion can buy. The still have to burn several hours each day and they're too old for triathalons.

[_truth dancer]

Why must anyone look, act, seem, behave, dress, walk, talk, like anyone else to appear a certain way or be acceptable?

I'm not saying there is not value in fitting in to a community or abiding by various laws, etc. And obviously it is beneficial to be appropriate in society.

What I'm saying is there is something REALLY sorrowful to me when I see people around the world feel a need to let go of their culture, dress, and unique creativity to look, act, and appear like Utahns from the 1950s.

As if the only way to be acceptable to God and the church is to look like this unusual group.

Try as I might I did, I don't see how this is a good thing... I don't see how God would want this... I don't see how it benefits our world or humanity.

It is like destroying all but one type of tree, or eliminating all the flowers but one kind, or getting rid of everyone but one race. It seems so contrary to the way of our universe.

~dancer~