A Danite Writes to Me, Insults My "Endowment"

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_Mercury
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Coggins7 wrote:I know a place where there's LSD
Where the exmos dance and the smirks are free
'cause in that spacious builidng everything's alright
And Jersey Girl's dancin' in the pale moonlight
Oh my Jersey what big teeth you have
Guess this is LSD, you know, you're other half.

- Coggins The Bard (Earl of Kolob, Duke of Delphi, and Prince of Pupparoni).


I didn't think so.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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Post by _Coggins7 »

Take a hint Vegas. Coming from you the question is moot.
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Post by _Phaedrus Ut »

That whole thread was a comedy of errors on Schrivers part. First he claims the document doesn't exist do to some inside knowledge. He also stated that if another written version of the Book of Mormon characters existed it would be big news. Dan corrected him on both of those points. He later ranted about Dan listing the document among the Egyptian papers in the church archives when actually it was just published that way from the tanners microfilm and was located elsewhere in the archives.

My favorite thing is that he ranted about Dan getting the footnote 22 wrong blah blah blah. It was later pointed out to him that Making of the Prophet didn't have a footnote 22. The book did have a endnote 22. I loved the irony that his ranting complaint contained a bigger citation error than the one he attributed to Vogel's book.


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Phaedrus Ut wrote:That whole thread was a comedy of errors on Schrivers part. First he claims the document doesn't exist do to some inside knowledge. He also stated that if another written version of the Book of Mormon characters existed it would be big news. Dan corrected him on both of those points. He later ranted about Dan listing the document among the Egyptian papers in the church archives when actually it was just published that way from the tanners microfilm and was located elsewhere in the archives.

My favorite thing is that he ranted about Dan getting the footnote 22 wrong blah blah blah. It was later pointed out to him that Making of the Prophet didn't have a footnote 22. The book did have a endnote 22. I loved the irony that his ranting complaint contained a bigger citation error than the one he attributed to Vogel's book.


Phaedrus


Ah, yes, i remember the details now. Thanks P.

And if i recall, that was basically his last substantive thread before he vanished. Hmm....coincidence?
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
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Post by _Mister Scratch »

Coggins7 wrote:
No, Gaz, I'm afraid (for you) that I will not be shutting up. Terribly sorry, old chap! I note, en passant, that *you* haven't provided any positive examples in *your* favor either.... It seems we are even in this regard.... Does that I mean I ought to tell you to "shut up," too?


It really matters little whether Scratch shuts up or whether his intellectually slovenly and and mendacious criticisms of a religion and people of which he knows so little in any sugstantive way rambles on to its inevitable conslusion: human irrelevancey.

This man's pretense to have an understanding of logical reasoning, the cut-and-paste mind that alows him to throw claims of logical fallacies committed and obscure urban legends about what certain church leaders are said to have done or said at his opponents without really understanding, in either an analytic or synthetic way, just what it is he's really trying to say (and being humorously unaware of the logical or conceptual implications of much of what he says) has long ago run its course with anyone who is capable of serious, critical thought and desires both a civil and substantive dialog with critics of the church.

Scratch is a boiling cauldren of self justifications, self serving poliitical agendas, and philosophical juvenile excuses for the kind of world the philosophy of life he holds dear has created, especially in the West.

His unflinching hatred and bigotry toward faithful members of the Church he so despises is an interesting commentary on the sensitivity and tolerance he self righteously demands of others for his favorite political vicitm archtypes.

Rollo certainly runs a close second to Scratch in both the paranoia and guile department (either of these gentlemen could easily be employed overtime in the leftist blogosphere generating conspiracy theories about George Bush, the imperialist Jews who control his administration, and what really happened on 9/11), but Scratch takes the cake as a a purveyor of pure cognitive pollution.

The really sad thing about all this is that I could write an entire book about what Scratch doesn't know. Its one thing to be ignorant but quite another to be ignorant and be blissfully unaware of it. Indeed, Scratch is our own resident Jimmy Carter: uneducated and uninformed on the vast majority of the things upon which he believes himself to be expert.

Obsessive, rabble rousing demagogues like Scratch can be found in any numbe of cultural venues: in any local Union hall, any town meeting, any political party, any courtroom, or upon any number of soap boxes in in any number of social arenas.
The form changes, but not the substance. This person is who and what he is, and serious diaglog with him is, for all intents and purposes, impossible. My recommendation? Give it a cookie and see if it goes away.

Loran


I see you are back to your usual M.O.: you get your butt kicked, storm off in a snot-nosed huff, and then return with ad hominem attacks where you rail away about the person's intelligence (odd, since you've admitted to not receiving a full formal education), or accuse the person of being "a liberal." Here, again, for those keeping score, are the discussion from which you've fled, Loran:
---Women and the priesthood
---Whether the Church has been dishonest about its past
---Whether homosexuality is logically "immoral" (and by the way: I responded to your thread on this in the Telestial Forum, too)

You don't want the "intellectual discourse" you keep griping about. You want a critic-free zone in which you won't ever be seriously challenged. I tell you again, Lorry-baby: such an MB exists, and its name is MAD. Of course, I would miss you horribly if you left, but, I guess that's how the "cookie" crumbles. ; )
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Coggins7 wrote:I know a place where there's LSD
Where the exmos dance and the smirks are free
'cause in that spacious builidng everything's alright
And Jersey Girl's dancin' in the pale moonlight
Oh my Jersey what big teeth you have
Guess this is LSD, you know, you're other half.

- Coggins The Bard (Earl of Kolob, Duke of Delphi, and Prince of Pupparoni).


Hi Sweetie,

I'm mildly flattered by your obsession with me however, I am not ex-Mo nor do you even come remotely close to The Bard much less the Jersey Boy who sings the lyrics you're using as a spin off.

Jersey Girl
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Post by _moksha »

Jersey Girl wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:I know a place where there's LSD
Where the exmos dance and the smirks are free
'cause in that spacious builidng everything's alright
And Jersey Girl's dancin' in the pale moonlight
Oh my Jersey what big teeth you have
Guess this is LSD, you know, you're other half.

- Coggins The Bard (Earl of Kolob, Duke of Delphi, and Prince of Pupparoni).


Hi Sweetie,

I'm mildly flattered by your obsession with me however, I am not ex-Mo nor do you even come remotely close to The Bard. Try again.

Jersey Girl

I like the imagery of dancin' in the pale moonlight! I doubt you need to be an ex-mo to do this...
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

moksha wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:I know a place where there's LSD
Where the exmos dance and the smirks are free
'cause in that spacious builidng everything's alright
And Jersey Girl's dancin' in the pale moonlight
Oh my Jersey what big teeth you have
Guess this is LSD, you know, you're other half.

- Coggins The Bard (Earl of Kolob, Duke of Delphi, and Prince of Pupparoni).


Hi Sweetie,

I'm mildly flattered by your obsession with me however, I am not ex-Mo nor do you even come remotely close to The Bard. Try again.

Jersey Girl

I like the imagery of dancin' in the pale moonlight! I doubt you need to be an ex-mo to do this...


Hi Mok.

You apparently copied my post as I was editing it. My screen name on Z was Lady Sundancer, LSD for short. Apparently Coggins cannot release himself from the imagery of getting his behind wooped by LSD. Thus the obsession. Kinda cute, isn't he?

Jersey Girl
;-)
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

Loran,

Try giving these lyrics a spin...written by Springsteen himself:

Blinded by the Light

Madman drummers bummers and Indians in the summer with a teenage diplomat
In the dumps with the mumps as the adolescent pumps his way into his hat
With a boulder on my shoulder, feelin' kinda older I tripped the merry-go-round
With this very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing the calliope crashed to the ground
Some all-hot half-shot was headin' for the hot spot snappin' his fingers clappin' his hands,
And some fleshpot mascot was tied into a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand
And now young Scott with a slingshot finally found a tender spot and throws his lover in the sand
And some bloodshot forget-me-not whispers daddy's within earshot save the buckshot turn up the band

And she was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
She got down but she never got tight, but she'll make it alright

Some brimstone baritone anti-cyclone rolling stone preacher from the east
He says, "Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in its funny bone, that's where they expect it least."
And some new-mown chaperone was standin' in the corner all alone watchin' the young girls dance
And some fresh-sown moonstone was messin' with his frozen zone to remind him of the feeling of romance

Yeah he was blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
He got down but he never got tight, but he's gonna make it tonight

Some silicone sister with her manager's mister told me I got what it takes
She said I'll turn you on sonny, to something strong if you play that song with the funky break,
And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather chart to see if it was safe to go outside
And little Early-Pearly came by in her curly-wurly and asked me if I needed a ride.
Oh, some hazard from Harvard was skunked on beer playin' backyard bombardier
Yes and Scotland Yard was trying hard, they sent some dude with a calling card, he said, Do what you like, but don't do it here.
Well, I jumped up, turned around, spit in the air, fell on the ground
Asked him which was the way back home
He said take a right at the light, keep goin' straight until night, and then, boy, you're on your own.

And now in Zanzibar a shootin' star was ridin' in a side car hummin' a lunar tune
Yes, and the avatar said blow the bar but first remove the cookie jar we're gonna teach those boys to laugh too soon.

And some kidnapped handicap was complainin' that he caught the clap from some mousetrap he bought last night,

Well I unsnapped his skull cap and between his ears I saw
a gap but figured he'd be all right

He was just blinded by the light
Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night
Blinded by the light
Mama always told me not to look into the sights of the sun
Oh but mama that's where the fun is



That oughtta keep you busy, sweet knees.

Jersey Girl
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Post by _moksha »

I think it is a good thing that Scratch has not taken out his endowments. This happen to Pee Wee Herman and he got into a lot of trouble for it.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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