I'm not demanding respect; just asking for social civility

[_moksha]

As I mentioned, I used to post on an American Idol-related board (at MorningStar's request) to combat a couple of rather vicious EV critics of Mormonism. The odd thing was that MorningStar had a sockpuppet over there, which she used to post about bodily excretions and other vulgarities. It was kind of odd, to say the least. Sounds like she was doing the same thing here.

We need Wade to analyze this. The over emphasis on the anal expressive elements may require a considerable amount of his digital couch time.

[_wenglund]

Of course, the alternative is to go to another board and cluck self-righteously about how awful this place is.

And here I thought that was the primary function of this board in relation to MA&D. I doubt there is any comparison in proportion of threads and posts here that are "cluckingly" devoted to MA&D, as there are there devoted to this board. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Mister Scratch]

Of course, the alternative is to go to another board and cluck self-righteously about how awful this place is.

And here I thought that was the primary function of this board in relation to MA&D. I doubt there is any comparison in proportion of threads and posts here that are "cluckingly" devoted to MA&D, as there are there devoted to this board. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Yet another example of your lack of the "charitable" feelings you are always promoting. Also, you are wrong: no one here is saying that MAD is awful in the same way that the TBMs rather falsely and hypocritically denounce this board. The main criticism of the fittingly named MADboard is that the moderating practices are unfair, and that the board essentially functions as a kind of "hiding place" for LDS who know that their arguments won't hold up elsewhere.

[_Runtu]

Of course, the alternative is to go to another board and cluck self-righteously about how awful this place is.

And here I thought that was the primary function of this board in relation to MA&D. I doubt there is any comparison in proportion of threads and posts here that are "cluckingly" devoted to MA&D, as there are there devoted to this board. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

How could I forget that we're the "obsession board"? LOL

[_wenglund]

As I mentioned, I used to post on an American Idol-related board (at MorningStar's request) to combat a couple of rather vicious EV critics of Mormonism. The odd thing was that MorningStar had a sockpuppet over there, which she used to post about bodily excretions and other vulgarities. It was kind of odd, to say the least. Sounds like she was doing the same thing here.

We need Wade to analyze this. The over emphasis on the anal expressive elements may require a considerable amount of his digital couch time.

I realize that you said this in jest, and I actually found it rather clever and funny.

However, as mearly a point of interest, it may be noted that this kind of Freudian "analyzing" has been discredited and abandoned by many leading psychologists in favor of more function psychoanalysis like CBT. More and more pychologists today tend to focus on detecting and correcting dysfunctional problematic self-beliefs and other congnitive distortions, rather than attempting to figure out how or why those dysfunction occured. It is analogous to their trying figuring out where the leak is that caused the flat, and fixing it, rather than spending time analyzing how or why the tire may have gotten the flat.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_why me]

The main criticism of the fittingly named MADboard is that the moderating practices are unfair, and that the board essentially functions as a kind of "hiding place" for LDS who know that their arguments won't hold up elsewhere.

Yes, it is a nice 'hiding place'. We all quite often can be found in our caves hiding from the RFM critic. To tell you the truth, I haven't yet seen anyone prove the Book of Mormon a forgery and since most critics if not all critics seem to relish in presentism when dealing with Mormon past cultural practices and lifestyles, well, as you know there is no reason for MAD people to hide. In fact, as you can see there are some made people here engaging with the MDb. How to explain your logic in such a scenario?

Likewise, if RFM and certain Postmo sites would allow LDS people to post, to engage the hypocricy that they (the RFMers' and the Postmoers') exhibit on such sites, I can assure you that we would be there. The fact that they ban us is a point that you need to consider in terms of who is hiding from whom.

[_Runtu]

Yes, it is a nice 'hiding place'. We all quite often can be found in our caves hiding from the RFM critic. To tell you the truth, I haven't yet seen anyone prove the Book of Mormon a forgery and since most critics if not all critics seem to relish in presentism when dealing with Mormon past cultural practices and lifestyles, well, as you know there is no reason for MAD people to hide. In fact, as you can see there are some made people here engaging with the MDb. How to explain your logic in such a scenario?

This really is a tired mantra, why me. The Book of Mormon has been "proven" a forgery to most people's satisfaction. It simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny. That your burden of proof has not been met is irrelevant. And the charge of presentism is just silly, unless you think that 19th century folks were more accommodating of polygamy and polyandry than people are today.

Likewise, if RFM and certain Postmo sites would allow LDS people to post, to engage the hypocricy that they exhibit on such sites, I can assure you that we would be there. The fact that they ban us is a point that you need to consider in terms of who is hiding from whom.

RfM is supposed to be a hiding place. It's not supposed to be a place for discussion between believers and unbelievers. Why people don't understand this is beyond me. It's not hypocritical for people who are hurting to want a place of refuge where they won't be attacked. I'm fine with MADB being such a refuge, but don't advertise it as a forum for discussion unless it actually is such a forum

[_wenglund]

Of course, the alternative is to go to another board and cluck self-righteously about how awful this place is.

And here I thought that was the primary function of this board in relation to MA&D. I doubt there is any comparison in proportion of threads and posts here that are "cluckingly" devoted to MA&D, as there are there devoted to this board. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

How could I forget that we're the "obsession board"? LOL

I am not sure. Could it be because you temporarily went into deep denial? ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

I am not sure. Could it be because you temporarily went into deep denial? ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

No, that was when I was posting as an apologist, Wade. I've since come out of the denial. ;-)

[_Mister Scratch]

The main criticism of the fittingly named MADboard is that the moderating practices are unfair, and that the board essentially functions as a kind of "hiding place" for LDS who know that their arguments won't hold up elsewhere.

Yes, it is a nice 'hiding place'. We all quite often can be found in our caves hiding from the RFM critic. To tell you the truth, I haven't yet seen anyone prove the Book of Mormon a forgery and since most critics if not all critics seem to relish in presentism when dealing with Mormon past cultural practices and lifestyles, well, as you know there is no reason for MAD people to hide. In fact, as you can see there are some made people here engaging with the MDb. How to explain your logic in such a scenario?

Yes, Why Me, *some* people are posting here, but....

Likewise, if RFM and certain Postmo sites would allow LDS people to post, to engage the hypocricy that they (the RFMers' and the Postmoers') exhibit on such sites, I can assure you that we would be there. The fact that they ban us is a point that you need to consider in terms of who is hiding from whom.

You claim that you "can assure you that we would be there." Oh, really? All of you are welcome here, and yet how many have showed up? I think that your claim is idle puffery and chest pounding of the variety that is de rigueur on the fittingly named MADboard. Further, a site such as RfM makes no claims whatsoever to being a "debate" board, which stands in stark contrast to MAD. ]

I agree with you wholeheartedly that posters on MBs such as RfM are "hiding" from TBMs. I would not argue with you on that point at all.