DCP "Busts" Me

[_Jersey Girl]

Is Scratch banned from MAD?

[_asbestosman]

So Scratch and Dr. Peterson are roughly equivalent counterparts on their respective boards? Obviously great care must then be taken to hang them properly. ;-)

Can one use the gallows simultaneously for both, or must they be hung separately?

[_Bond...James Bond]

Is Scratch banned from MAD?

Oh yeah. Big Time!

[_wenglund]

Wade---

What on earth are you talking about? Are you supposing that he thinks I have "brazen[ly] lied" about something else? What, pray tell, do you suppose that is? The Quinn stuff? Because I honestly have no idea. Yes, I guess it is possible that him calling me "mendacious" refers to something other than the so-called "Douche Bag Incident," but I can't possibly fathom what that might be. I am unaware of DCP accusing me of lying in any other specific instance.

I am not supposing a thing. You are the one who suggested that it was in reference to your denial of the "douche bag" name-calling. I am just asking you for specific evidence in support of your assumption--evidence you apparently don't have.

Edited to add:

Here is the post in question (er, one of them anyways)

I judge Mr. Scratch to have lied, repeatedly and shamelessly, to me while attempting to extract from me (successfully, for at least a time) an apology that, in fact, he did not deserve.

My judgment may be mistaken, but I don't think so. And, since he snipes from the safe cover of a pseudonym, I don't think that my judgment (right or, even, wrong) has done him much real damage.

(emphasis added)

What does your allegedly and unspecified lying in an attempt to extract an apology from DCP have to do with his allegedly calling you a liar for denying that you called him a "douche bag"?

Notice how he says that he does not care one way or the other whether he is wrong, but that he will continue with his smear campaign regardless. It may be time for you to re-evaluate your devotion to DCP, Wade.

No, I didn't notice that (perhaps you are misreading between the lines again). What I noticed is his reasonable assumption that that no real or meaningful harm can be done to someone posting pseudonymously--that is, after all, one of the key reasons that most people post pseudonymously.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Jersey Girl]

Is Scratch banned from MAD?

Oh yeah. Big Time!

Thanks, Bond, I thought so but was too tired to dig up the information. So...DCP apparently saw a post by "Mister Scratch" over on RFM that contained derogatory remarks about him. He posts the comments/accusations over on MAD where the real Mister Scratch cannot reply to them.

In other words, he posted a personal attack thread where the person being attacked is essentially duct taped from answering or defending themselves.

I looked in on RFM and see that "our" Mister Scratch has had a mod verify his user account.

So who slipped up here? Mister Scratch or Daniel?

Will DCP do the right thing and correct it or will some moderator close the thread before he does that and leave the false accusation to stand without correction?


Jersey Girl

[_Ray A]

Re: Sexual Perversion, the MTC, and the "Tree of Life"
Date: Jul 24 10:43
Author: Lost Soul
Mail Address:
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Mister Scratch!
Are you the same Mister Scratch from FAIR?
Good to see you here!
smile.gif

Subject: Re: Sexual Perversion, the MTC, and the "Tree of Life"
Date: Jul 24 16:43
Author: Mister Scratch
Mail Address:
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Yup. I'm the same old Scratch from FAIR. Nomos put me on the queue after I proved that there is (unfortunately) no doctrinal or scriptural support for interracial marriage. Basically, BY's order that anyone participating in miscegenation deserved "death on the spot" is still in effect, at least given what the Brethren have said on the matter. The ban on interracial marriage has never been officially rescinded.
I pointed this out at length on my last thread over there, even showing that DCP was relying on the logical fallacy of the Bandwagon Appeal, and I got queued for my troubles. I would really like to go back and participate in the debate, but no dice.
Nomos accused me of playing "word games." But, of course, nobody was willing to offer up any solid evidence of that. They punished me because they didn't like what I had to say. Plain and simple.

Scatch, if I could get you to swear on your very honour that you did not write this, I would. Contrary to what some posters have written, this is not a "jest" or mimic post, in my opinion. It seems like a geunine reply to the question as to whether you were the Mister Scratch who was posting on FAIR. The posters who post as "Daniel C. Peterson", or "Denial C. Peterson" are clearly jesting. But it is the context of this post that is troubling. I remember it well because I read all the exchanges. You even go into detail to describe why you were in trouble at FAIR, something a "jester" would unlikely take the trouble to detail. Also, why would an exmo from RFM want to do this? Smac has denied any involvement, and I believe him, because he simply doesn't do things like that, and I'm aware of his posting style from a long way back. It is the time frame and context that makes this post seem genuinely from you.

[_Coggins7]

In spite of some of the circumstantial evidence that seems to counter Scratch's denial about calling DCP a "douche bag", I agree with DCP in thinking that until incontrovertable evidence can be produced, Scratch should be given the benefit of the doubt and taken at his word--even though it is unlikely that Scratch would extend the same leniancy towards the leaders and defenders of the Church.

Anybody who remembers what Scratch called both Wade, and particularly, me, in post after post on some other threads, will realiize that what Scratch is accused of calling DCP is entirely plausible; indeed, even likely, regardless of the evidence one way or the other. Its like hearing That Bill Clinton lied. There's absolutely nothing unusual about the claim or its plausibility.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

I recall DCP once leaving ZLMB and claiming I was the cause;

Really? What did you do?

It was a long time ago, but I believe it was because I raised the fact he was employed by the LDS Church, which made his credibility suspect. He became mightly pissed.

[_Mister Scratch]

Re: Sexual Perversion, the MTC, and the "Tree of Life"
Date: Jul 24 10:43
Author: Lost Soul
Mail Address:
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Mister Scratch!
Are you the same Mister Scratch from FAIR?
Good to see you here!
smile.gif

Subject: Re: Sexual Perversion, the MTC, and the "Tree of Life"
Date: Jul 24 16:43
Author: Mister Scratch
Mail Address:
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Yup. I'm the same old Scratch from FAIR. Nomos put me on the queue after I proved that there is (unfortunately) no doctrinal or scriptural support for interracial marriage. Basically, BY's order that anyone participating in miscegenation deserved "death on the spot" is still in effect, at least given what the Brethren have said on the matter. The ban on interracial marriage has never been officially rescinded.
I pointed this out at length on my last thread over there, even showing that DCP was relying on the logical fallacy of the Bandwagon Appeal, and I got queued for my troubles. I would really like to go back and participate in the debate, but no dice.
Nomos accused me of playing "word games." But, of course, nobody was willing to offer up any solid evidence of that. They punished me because they didn't like what I had to say. Plain and simple.

Scatch, if I could get you to swear on your very honour that you did not write this, I would. Contrary to what some posters have written, this is not a "jest" or mimic post, in my opinion. It seems like a geunine reply to the question as to whether you were the Mister Scratch who was posting on FAIR. The posters who post as "Daniel C. Peterson", or "Denial C. Peterson" are clearly jesting. But it is the context of this post that is troubling. I remember it well because I read all the exchanges. You even go into detail to describe why you were in trouble at FAIR, something a "jester" would unlikely take the trouble to detail. Also, why would an exmo from RFM want to do this? Smac has denied any involvement, and I believe him, because he simply doesn't do things like that, and I'm aware of his posting style from a long way back. It is the time frame and context that makes this post seem genuinely from you.

Ray--- I *did* write that! I have never claimed that I did not write that specific post. I have no problem admitting to posts which I did actually write. The post I did not write was the one DCP attempted to smear me with.

[_asbestosman]

Scratch, was this you?

A FAIR guy named Dan
03/17/2006 - by Mister Scratch
There once was a FAIR guy named Dan;
He couldn't find his a(__) with both hands!
So, shaking his head
He burped and he said,
"These donuts go straight to my can!"