March 25-Joseph Smith DVD released

[_Runtu]

Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?

I think all money spent on attacking another's religion is money wasted. Why bother?

[Anonymous]

Thus quoth Dart:

It is also interesting that these responses have no authors attached to them. Who wrote up this crap?

It is also interesting that FAIR says this organization did not want Mormons to see it beforehand. So they knew they were unwelcomed to it yet the "managed to get a copy" somehow.

Well, how did they "manage" that? And who is being "deceptive and dishonest" in this case?

Before we accuse them of skullduggery, it's important to point out that someone put the video, in its entirety, up on the net on Google Videos. That's where I managed to watch it a week or so ago, I forget exactly when. It's not like the FAIR folks had to do anything untoward to get a copy of it, all they had to do was click a link someone posted on the MAD board to Google Videos and watch it.

[_Runtu]

Before we accuse them of skullduggery, it's important to point out that someone put the video, in its entirety, up on the net on Google Videos. That's where I managed to watch it a couple weeks ago. It's not like the FAIR folks had to do anything untoward to get a copy of it, all they had to do was click a link someone posted on the MAD board to Google Videos and watch it.

Be that as it may, it doesn't mean the FAIR people aren't evil. ;-)

[_Sethbag]

ROFL. Yeah, it's fun to joke about it, but seriously, they aren't evil, we aren't evil, nobody's evil here. Kinda funny how most of us here are the same people we were before, except that we no longer believe the church is true. Kinda sad that we turn that into such a big deal. "Who's on the Lord's Side, Who?" Um, not me. I'm on the Truth's Side, as far as it is translated correctly. ;-) It's why I don't mind jabbing at FAIR when the jab is a good one, but when it's not, well, it doesn't do us or them any good to throw around bad arguments.

The LDS church spends hundreds of millions of dollars every year promoting the missionary program of the church, which is, basically, all about telling everyone in the world (as kindly as possible) that their churches are wrong, and that the LDS church is the right one, and trying to convert people over to the LDS church. I think that arguing against the amount spent on producing this video is a really bad idea. Sorta like the giant cauldron calling the tiny kettle black.

[_Runtu]

ROFL. Yeah, it's fun to joke about it, but seriously, they aren't evil, we aren't evil, nobody's evil here. Kinda funny how most of us here are the same people we were before, except that we no longer believe the church is true. Kinda sad that we turn that into such a big deal. "Who's on the Lord's Side, Who?" Um, not me. I'm on the Truth's Side, as far as it is translated correctly. ;-) It's why I don't mind jabbing at FAIR when the jab is a good one, but when it's not, well, it doesn't do us or them any good to throw around bad arguments.

I know. I was just teasing. I like just about everybody over there on MADB, and I'm still mystified that they don't think we can be friends anymore. *shrug*

As far as I'm concerned, I have behaved pretty much the same way as a "critic" that I did as an "apologist" over there, with the exception of some anger at the beginning of my apostasy. For what it's worth, I think you've been a model of kindness and manners over there.

The LDS church spends hundreds of millions of dollars every year promoting the missionary program of the church, which is, basically, all about telling everyone in the world (as kindly as possible) that their churches are wrong, and that the LDS church is the right one, and trying to convert people over to the LDS church. I think that arguing against the amount spent on producing this video is a really bad idea. Sorta like the giant cauldron calling the tiny kettle black.

Well, yeah, kind of. As I said, money spent knocking other religions is wasted, no matter who does it.

[_Jersey Girl]

Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?

Why do you think it's a waste of money to produce this DVD? Do you feel it a waste of money for religious organizations to publish and distribute Bibles or the Book of Mormon?

Jersey Girl

[_Jersey Girl]

Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?

I think all money spent on attacking another's religion is money wasted. Why bother?

Runtu,

I'd like to know if, according to LDS doctrine, the Protestant and Catholic churches I've been a member of...are an abomination.

Jersey Girl

[_Runtu]

Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?

I think all money spent on attacking another's religion is money wasted. Why bother?

Runtu,

I'd like to know if, according to LDS doctrine, the Protestant and Catholic churches I've been a member of...are an abomination.

Jersey Girl

Apparently, yes. I'd consider money spent proclaiming that doctrine to be money wasted, as well. I'm not big on people or religions attacking each other.

[_neworder]

I don't know if this was an answer to prayer or just a coincidence but I read about this DVD yesterday morning (Sunday) and told myself I would have to get a copy to see what it was like. Since I no longer believe in the church and the whole keep the Sabbath Holy by not Shopping on Sunday, I shop on Sunday so I don't have to fight as many crowds (One of the benefits of being an apostate in Utah Valley).

When I came out to my car, low and behold there was a complementary copy of the DVD sitting there under my windshield wiper. Not sure if it was put there by God or Satan or just somebody who thought they needed to get the word out, but I was glad I was not going to have to track down a copy. It was probably a good idea to put them on Cars at Wal-Mart on a Sunday because you would be able to get them into the hands of Luke Warm Mormons or people that where not part of the faith yet. You might have hit a few TBMs that were there buying bread for sacrament meeting because they forgot to get it on Saturday (Reminds of the Primary song we use to sing, Saturday is a special day it is the day we get ready for Sunday!)

The production of the Video was very well done but you can tell of course they were trying to push their Agenda. It was set up like "Who are you going to believe? Jesus Christ or Joseph Smith"

A lot of the early church history meat was later on in the show and I think many LDS will turn it off only after a few minutes when they are arguing about "What Jesus said in the Bible" and many will not get to the better points about Joseph being sealed to other mens wives and things that will be total shockers for most TBMs that are true.

On the way to work I was listening to Bob Lonsberry on KNRS 570 and he was talking all about it. A few believers called the show and said they started watching it and then got mad and turned it off and then felt the spirit of the restored gospel and now their testimony is stronger. Bob Lonsberry went on about how these DVDs are an attack from Satan and I am sure that most LDS will think the same thing. Just like how other religions (including the EVs that put these out) think that Satan is attacking them. I am sure that if Richard Dawkins went around putting copies of "The God Delusion" on the same doors of the EV, they would be throwing a fit.

Everybody thinks they are right and sometimes I get sick of it.

[_neworder]

Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?

People spend millions on what they believe in. It is a simple fact. EVs do it, Mormons do it, and other religions do it.

These EVs are mostly in the business of trying to "save" people. Don't get me wrong, a lot of them have very good programs about feeding the hungry and helping them out, but the most important thing is trying to get people saved. Mormons are building large temples and doing a lot of work because they are "saving" the dead.

Maybe Christ should've not let the woman pour expensive perfume on his feet and told her instead to go sell it and feed a few hungry people.

People spend money on strange things.