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Post by _rcrocket »

marg wrote:
It seems to me that "early training of the young" into the mythical belief system of a religious organization is a rather unethical practice.


"Unethical" implies a standard of ethics to which people understand a need to adhere. Since virtually every monotheistic and polythestic religion, and many political parties, inculcate their young, I wonder which system of ethics you have reference to? Is it in the Bible? Where might I read your system of ethics?

rcrocket
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Post by _marg »

rcrocket wrote:
marg wrote:
It seems to me that "early training of the young" into the mythical belief system of a religious organization is a rather unethical practice.


"Unethical" implies a standard of ethics to which people understand a need to adhere. Since virtually every monotheistic and polythestic religion, and many political parties, inculcate their young, I wonder which system of ethics you have reference to? Is it in the Bible? Where might I read your system of ethics?

rcrocket


With regards to your first sentence ""Unethical" implies a standard of ethics to which people understand a need to adhere." I disagree. I look upon ethics as a soft science. An individual or group of people might believe their choice or behavior is moral but that is irrelevant to the impact their decision/behavior actually has on others. When decisions and behaviors are critically assessed and by that I include objectively assessed, independent to those with vested personal interest and it is determined that those choices or behaviors impacted negatively on a particular group other than themselves, in this case a vulnerable group children and the overall negative impact outweighs the positive impact I consider it unethical. The same could be argued for institutionalized polygamy. Young girls are vulnerable and not in a position economically and mentally to make decisions which are in their best interest.

I consider people who have learned at a young age that mythical stories are truths in the sense of really actually happening, to be a negative impact on that individual. For whatever reason the human brain when young accepts with little question what authority tells them, no matter how outrageous the mythical story. And at a young age when later told that same belief wasn't really true i.e. Santa Clause, they without any problem can discard the belief.

For some reason when children continue holding mythical beliefs into adulthood they have a difficult time assessing how and why they acquired those beliefs. Many people never even think to question. And what occurs is that rational people will hold extremely irrational ideas if they've acquired them as children. It seems to be a phenomena of the human brain being able to compartmentalize experiences, beliefs from their rational thinking processes.

When reading RFM, as I have done I will often come across posts by individuals who are completely baffled as to how as adults they could ever have believed some of their religious irrational beliefs. Rightly so, some are angered or annoyed they were ever indoctrinated with them at a young age in the first place.

It is no mere coincedience that religious organizations start teaching/training the young with mythical religious beliefs, rather than waiting until they are young adults.
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why me wrote:RFM is not a recovery forum since their is very little to recover from. When one looses their testimony there should be an automatic feeling of freedom...no need for a recovery forum in that regard. If I were to loose my testimony, I would feel free as an eagle.


Isn't freedom good? Mormons call it free agency and claim it to be good. Why doesn't your testimony make you feel free as an eagle? You seem to be admitting that you are in bondage and being oppressed. I believe that you are in bondage and being oppressed, I used to be there too. I am free now, and believe me there is a lot to recover from.

I think that you play the victim, thus the identity you use is "Why Me". Are you helpless? I believe you are a victim of the church. There is so much that can be read into your 3 little sentences above. Change your identity to something other than a victim status, it could be a start of something good for you.

I also call on you again to change your avatar. I will use your same argument and words you used to call for the change of the Boyd K. Packer avatar. Do you want me to quote you here?


A bump and a quote for Why Me...

I think that Boyd should change his identity since he is mocking a GA. One can be funny but I am sure that it is not funny for the real Boyd. Likewise, it would not be funny for anyone here if some individual stole our identity and began to post under our known identity. Would it?

Sorry for being a party pooper but Boyd must go....he can change his name to: Dexter P. Peabody.


I think that Why Me should change his avatar since he is mocking an alleged prophet. One can be funny but I am sure that it is not funny for the people who believe in the alleged prophet. Likewise, it would not be funny for anyone here if some individual stole your picture and began to post under your known picture. Would it?

Sorry for being a party pooper but Why Me the victim must go....he can change his name to: Grow A. Spine.
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