?????But they are really nice people.?????

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_barrelomonkeys
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beastie wrote:
Perhaps I don't know enough Mormons?


Book of Mormon - no matter how many Mormons you meet, your experience will always be different than harmony's, and I'll warrant Mormons will always look - and BE - nicer to you than her.

The niceness of Mormons - aside from personality variations which can be found everywhere - is sometimes manipulative. Mormons are taught to show their best side to the world, to show how HAPPY they are, so that the rest of the world will say: WOW! Look at how happy that person is. I wonder what their secret is. I wish *I* could be that happy.

And that is supposed to be the opening to missionary work.

Another aspect of Mormon niceness is the fear of being "bad". Mormonism, while it does accept Christ's atonement as a free gift in terms of everyone resurrecting with a body and in terms of opening the door of opportunity to exaltation, in the end, Mormonism is a very works-based religion. You have to earn your way to heaven (or the CK). Moreover, so much is asked of Mormons that it is very easy to feel inadequate. So being "nice" and happy is almost a religious obligation, and if one isn't "nice", one might not get into the CK.

Then there is the guilt factor - I experienced this a lot - Mormons are taught, over and over, that they are the LUCKIEST and most BLESSED people on the face of the entire EARTH and even in the history of the PLANET (due to the great apostasy) because they actually have the ONE TRUE GOSPEL OF JC - so Mormons tend to feel guilty if they don't feel happy, nice, shiny.

But this forced happiness and niceness sometimes covers depression and anger, which can be manifest through passive aggressiveness (always being late to meetings, over eating junk). And, with certain people, this aggression can be openly manifest - particularly towards apostates.

Moreover, the "niceness" overlay aside, some Mormon teachings are quite cruel - swedeboy mentioned the homosexuality issue, which is one example. There are other potential cruelties - such as racial attitudes or past teachings, the tendency to "idealize", and hence, control women, the association of righteousness with financial success, etc.

I'm all for basic politeness, but when nicety is a veneer coating, it is less appealing.

Having said that, please don't interpret this to mean I find all Mormons unpleasant. That is not true at all. They tend to be like the regular population in that regard. Some pleasant, some not. They just tend to cover up the "not" part more than nonmormons (although I think other religious sects have the same tendency).



Beastie, I understand what you're saying. I think on this board I have to be very careful what I say in general... On a generalized, very surface level LDS are good people that are trying to get by just like the rest of us (with an extra ordinate amount of extra pressure placed upon them) and some are of good character and others are not.
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Hoops wrote:
barrelomonkeys wrote:
Amway.
*edited for lots of typos*


You are aware that Amway is very Mormon. Or is it Meleleuca? It's all the same scheme.



WHY do you insist on quoting all of my spelling errors/typos?

GRRRR
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And Beastie I read what you write and I incorporate it into my existing schema. I hope you know that.
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Post by _harmony »

barrelomonkeys wrote:
Hoops wrote:
barrelomonkeys wrote:
Amway.
*edited for lots of typos*


You are aware that Amway is very Mormon. Or is it Meleleuca? It's all the same scheme.



WHY do you insist on quoting all of my spelling errors/typos?

GRRRR


I think Melaleuca is spelled with an 'a'. Those who correct others' spelling are doomed to be caught in the same net.
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barrelomonkeys wrote:
Hoops wrote:
barrelomonkeys wrote:
Amway.
*edited for lots of typos*


You are aware that Amway is very Mormon. Or is it Meleleuca? It's all the same scheme.



WHY do you insist on quoting all of my spelling errors/typos?

GRRRR


I've always known that the best way to get girls to like me is to make them mad at me first. How am I doing so far?
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Hoops wrote:I've always known that the best way to get girls to like me is to make them mad at me first. How am I doing so far?


Oh, I get it. You're using the First Grade "punch the girl in the arm and run" technique!

LOL
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liz3564 wrote:
Hoops wrote:I've always known that the best way to get girls to like me is to make them mad at me first. How am I doing so far?


Oh, I get it. You're using the First Grade "punch the girl in the arm and run" technique!

LOL

Let's just say my emotional development has been stunted. What? It's not working? Another good one I've found effective is belching as loud and as long as possible. Chicks really dig that.
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Hoops wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
Hoops wrote:I've always known that the best way to get girls to like me is to make them mad at me first. How am I doing so far?


Oh, I get it. You're using the First Grade "punch the girl in the arm and run" technique!

LOL

Let's just say my emotional development has been stunted. What? It's not working? Another good one I've found effective is belching as loud and as long as possible. Chicks really dig that.


Chicks, maybe. Who knows what baby chickens really dig? Women, though? Highly unlikely.
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I’m glad some have seen through my superficial Mormon “niceness.” I also knew that all of that love and charity my mother expresses to everyone (despite their religious paradigm) is known to be nothing more than a scam to help bring about missionary opportunities. It’s refreshing to know that the truth that I’m actually a misanthropic daft prick is known despite my efforts to put on my “Nice Mormon” charade.

If anyone needs me, I will be privately drowning kittens in the lower kingdom. Don't worry; I'll be up once the litter has met its demise in a few minutes to comment on how nice homosexuals are and to continue my ruse of Mormon nicety.

Now where did I put that bottle of fecal matter I’ve been saving to desecrate the graves of non-Mormons?... er, I mean. I LOVE non-Mormons. Some of them are my closest friends (I wonder if these suckers are buying this while I'm hiding my depression and anger by my shallow Mormon niceness).
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
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harmony wrote:
Hoops wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
Hoops wrote:I've always known that the best way to get girls to like me is to make them mad at me first. How am I doing so far?


Oh, I get it. You're using the First Grade "punch the girl in the arm and run" technique!

LOL

Let's just say my emotional development has been stunted. What? It's not working? Another good one I've found effective is belching as loud and as long as possible. Chicks really dig that.


Chicks, maybe. Who knows what baby chickens really dig? Women, though? Highly unlikely.


I guess I'll have to reevaluate. Thanks for the inside scoop. Fortunately, my wife still likes me, I think.
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