beastie wrote:I think proof implies something stronger than evidence, and instead implies an accumulation of evidence, or single pieces of evidence so certain that the likelihood approaches certainty.
At any rate, I love the ancient Maya. Their religion calls for human sacrifice. The gods sacrificed their lives in order to create human life, they spilled their blood for us, so we must return the favor and enable them to live with our blood. I guess that's my path. Since I doubt anyone will volunteer for this duty since the world is full of faithless heathens, I'll just have to draft people.
If that is what you think, and you truly believe it that is the path that you are to take spiritually, then I can't argue it. Only you know your path.
Nephi wrote:If that is what you think, and you truly believe it that is the path that you are to take spiritually, then I can't argue it. Only you know your path.
And my path is to dismiss the various fanciful talk such as yours of spirits and God, and whatever else someone dreams up who have not established support for their claim..and I'm not using science to do that.
Nephi wrote:If that is what you think, and you truly believe it that is the path that you are to take spiritually, then I can't argue it. Only you know your path.
And my path is to dismiss the various fanciful talk such as yours of spirits and God, and whatever else someone dreams up who have not established support for their claim..and I'm not using science to do that.
Ah, but to admit you have a path (using my universalism ideal) assumes there is a God in which you are taking that path towards :D
You cannot use a microscope to find galaxies; you cannot use a telescope to find bacteria. If you do, you could draw the wrong conclusion that galaxies or bacteria do not exist
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you can't use prayer to find anything. anything you think you can find with prayer you can find with the same success, just making crap up or blindly guessing.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
You cannot use a microscope to find galaxies; you cannot use a telescope to find bacteria. If you do, you could draw the wrong conclusion that galaxies or bacteria do not exist
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you can't use prayer to find anything. anything you think you can find with prayer you can find with the same success, just making crap up or blindly guessing.
You cannot use a microscope to find galaxies; you cannot use a telescope to find bacteria. If you do, you could draw the wrong conclusion that galaxies or bacteria do not exist
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you can't use prayer to find anything. anything you think you can find with prayer you can find with the same success, just making crap up or blindly guessing.
CFR please, or is this an opinion?
Gadianton could reference me. I said to you in the other thread that at least with hallucinogenic drugs you are open to novel experiences that one might even called "enlightenment" (independent testing is always desirable). If you pray, you are just talking to yourself and thinking through your own reasoning in your own brain. To elevate this to an independent source of truth is wishful thinking and self-delusion. Your microscope vs. telescope analogy does not apply to the actual situation. Science uses tools and religion just makes stuff up.
"And yet another little spot is smoothed out of the echo chamber wall..." Bond
beastie wrote:Well, I guess you have no problem with believers who fly airplanes into buildings for Allah, either then.
They flew airplanes into buildings for their own glory and for a "war" which they perceived (unless you subscribe to the whole government conspiracy thing). I see no difference of blowing up one's self and taking out a bunch of innocent civilians and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, when those pilots were given suicide pills incase they didn't make it back. Many many times greater amount of individuals did we kill in Japan with those two bombs, with the majority of them being innocent by large and far. Those bombs were "shock and awe" and nothing more. However, many times in war, people kill themselves in "martyrdom". In the eyes of those terrorists, it was no different.
The sad part will be that in reality they were not at war as such, and because of how fooled they were by an individual with a personal agenda, they were (probably) way off their path, but with unlimited time before them, they have no where to go but up.