The Origin of the Human

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_bcspace
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Post by _bcspace »

Hold the faith, brotha. Kinda funny actually, you guys get more mileage out of the discovery of the city of Troy than probably the guys who found it. As long as people once thought Troy was mythical, and then it was found, you can justify any whacky belief of Mormonism. Hey, they found Troy, didn't they, so who says 2 + 2 will never be anything but 4?


It's a simple illustration of a simple scientific principle even you can understand. Heck, it's even been invoked against me on this board today after it was shown that I was right (gay thread)......I shouldn't take my victory too seriously because other evidence could come along.

Of course in this case, you haven't had a victory yet. I agree with science. Why don't you?
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Post by _Brackite »

Sethbag wrote:Brackite, thanks for that link. I agree with him right up until he's done spelling out some of the reasons evolution isn't compatible with LDS teaching and belief. Of course, he's approaching it from the LDS believer side, so he rejects evolution. I obviously disagree with him on that, and think his anti-evolution arguments are crap. But he does show quite a few arguments about why evolution isn't compatible.


Hi! I do agree that his anti-Evolution arguments are not that good and are pretty weak. However, he does argue and points out really good how LDS Doctrine and Theology and Human Evolution are Not compatible with each other. They cannot be reconciling to each other. The Fact is that DNA Evidence Scientifically does indeed back up that all humans, did indeed originated out of the Continent of Africa.

Please Check out and See:

http://www.arcl.ed.ac.uk/a1/stoppress/stop261.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/999030.stm

http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news255.htm

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... wells.html

http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/opinion/c ... 8697c.html

And:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1965
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Post by _beastie »

It's a simple illustration of a simple scientific principle even you can understand. Heck, it's even been invoked against me on this board today after it was shown that I was right (gay thread)......I shouldn't take my victory too seriously because other evidence could come along.

Of course in this case, you haven't had a victory yet. I agree with science. Why don't you?


bcspace has almost single handedly convinced me that Richard Dawkins is correct, and religious is a dangerous thing because of the damage it inflicts to reasoning.
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BCSpace wrote:I agree with science. Why don't you?

No you don't. You agree with your testimony. Your testimony is what's important to you, not the truth. Inasmuch as you realize deep down that all of modern science isn't as wrong as it would have to be for LDS teachings to be correct, you're willing to tip your cap at modern science and then claim victory. But you're fooling yourself, even if you're not fooling anyone else. As I said before, you're too smart of a guy to let your mind remain captive to this mythological belief system. Free yourself.

Of course, the mental blind spots you've built up over the years will prevent you understanding what I'm saying, but at least remember it, and maybe sometime you'll figure it out.

Also, you still haven't answered my questions about the Pre-Adamites.
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Re: Reconciliation Attempts Irrelevant

Post by _A Light in the Darkness »

Not a shred of evidence supports spiritual mythologies.


Seek God with an earnest hear to see such evidence.
And the process of evolution is over tens of thousands of years. So, even if a “spiritual sense” could be established, pinning it to two people among all the evolving humanoids would be impossible.

Someone argues the existence of pre-Adamites is incompatible with Mormon Doctrine. I point out a way to show how it need not be incompatible. This comment is not relevant to that. Is this more complex? Sure. Is it a bit weird? Sure. Sometimes, always really, reality is complex. Reality is weird. Cocking an incredulous pose and saying, "How convieeeenent" is no more a valid reply here than it would be to with attempts at reconciling quantum mechanics and general relativity. If we have good reason to believe in both, and I think we do, than a reconcilation ought to be available. It is a simple matter to show that those who argue there is some sort of formal contradiction are mistaken and naïve in their opposition to the Church.
Ancient biblical stories constructed and perpetuated as explanation are unreliable and false when confronted with what we humans collectively can know today about the evolution of life forms on the planet.

Second, religious myths have never taken on intellectually honest reconciliation of conflicting doctrines. In the absence of genuine information, stories (myths) emerged as explanation.


Well isn't that just question-begging nonsense.
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