RockSlider wrote:Hey whyme, DrW rejected my first suggestion, googling all over annie's suggestions. What do you think of this one:
Folks, settle down, don't you remember the first manifesto? It was a political maneuver we never had any intention of actually enforcing it. We just needed this stuff on the books and say we have enforcement.
Hey RockSlider,
No slight intended, my friend. Believe me.
Woke up early this morning, stumbled to the computer bleary eyed to have a look at the overnight developments in this latest train wreck, and Annie's prose was the first to catch my eye. She doesn't post here all that much and her work definitely rated a positive comment.
Truth be told, when compared to comments in the wild, I think that the average quality and depth of the response here on MDB has been outstanding.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
RockSlider wrote:Hey whyme, DrW rejected my first suggestion, googling all over annie's suggestions. What do you think of this one:
Folks, settle down, don't you remember the first manifesto? It was a political maneuver we never had any intention of actually enforcing it. We just needed this stuff on the books and say we have enforcement.
Hey RockSlider,
No slight intended, my friend. Believe me.
Woke up early this morning, stumbled to the computer bleary eyed to have a look at the overnight developments in this latest train wreck, and Annie's prose was the first to catch my eye. She doesn't post here all that much and her work definitely rated a positive comment.
Truth be told, when compared to comments in the wild, I think that the average quality and depth of the response here on MDB has been outstanding.
Reading MDB has been a guilty pleasure of mine for at least the past seven years. I feel as if I know you all very well, even though I very rarely comment. I used to post at NOM and at FLAK in the old days.
So we have 15 prophets, Seers, and Revelators communicating with god, Jesus, and the hg, who with the guidance of the god head create a new policy, that is so stinky that it immediately warrants secondary and forthcoming clarification?
God needs a better isp. The bits keep getting mangled. Perhaps he should implement a hamming algorithm type error checking and correction.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
Q: the leaked document was a set of draft revisions, was it not?
it appears that way from how it's formatted, but do we know for sure how close to approval and publication this was? Dehlin wrote on Facebook that the doc was "obtained from an LDS bishop" and i think he said on RadioWest that more than one person leaked it. did it go out to all bishops?
ETA: my bad. i should have read the very first goddamn paragraph of the leaked doc... "The following additions to Handbook 1 have been approved by the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles for immediate implementation."
sorry.
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I have a question wrote:I'd like to see how they are going to wriggle out of clarify this:
"Effective immediately, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a new policy related to the children of gay couples, married or unmarried: "Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may not receive a name and a blessing. A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may be baptized and confirmed, ordained, or recommended for missionary service only as follows: A mission president or a stake president may request approval from the Office of the First Presidency to baptize and confirm, ordain, or recommend missionary service for a child of a parent who has lived or is living in a same-gender relationship when he is satisfied by personal interviews that both of the following requirements are met: 1. The child accepts and is committed to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage. 2. The child is of legal age and does not live with a parent who has lived or currently lives in a same-gender cohabitation relationship or marriage."
It is clear, it is explicit, it is unequivocal. And it is public.
palerobber wrote:Q: the leaked document was a set of draft revisions, was it not?
it appears that way from how it's formatted, but do we know for sure how close to approval and publication this was? Dehlin wrote on Facebook that the doc was "obtained from an LDS bishop" and i think he said on RadioWest that more than one person leaked it. did it go out to all bishops?
I thought it was published in the newest edition of the handbook. Now I am confused.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Woke up early this morning, stumbled to the computer bleary eyed to have a look at the overnight developments in this latest train wreck, and Annie's prose was the first to catch my eye. She doesn't post here all that much and her work definitely rated a positive comment.
Truth be told, when compared to comments in the wild, I think that the average quality and depth of the response here on MDB has been outstanding.
I do not know annie and was mostly trying to poke some fun at her.
Its great to have you post annie, I hope you might post more.
palerobber wrote:Q: the leaked document was a set of draft revisions, was it not?
it appears that way from how it's formatted, but do we know for sure how close to approval and publication this was? Dehlin wrote on Facebook that the doc was "obtained from an LDS bishop" and i think he said on RadioWest that more than one person leaked it. did it go out to all bishops?
I thought it was published in the newest edition of the handbook. Now I am confused.
Christofferson made it sound like feat accompli. Issued the day before (i.e., on 11/5/2015).
When they come out with a clarification, they could call it Official Policy Declaration #2.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
