Discussion of the ''DCP / plagiarism'' thread

[_Jesse Pinkman]

Where did I say that I blamed Lemmie or anyone else? That’s not what I said or what I was doing. What I said was that when you accuse, either right or wrongly, something of that magnitude, I wanted to give my friend an opportunity to defend himself.

Is it an accusation when it's been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt? At this point this is more of a documentary than an investigation.

- Doc

What would you like to see as s result of this documentary.

[_Jersey Girl]

Question to the teeming masses.

Is DCP aware of this thread and if so, how do we know that?

[Guest]

What would you like to see as s result of this documentary.

I would like him to admit to being a plagiarist, make amends to everyone he's called dishonest on this subject, credit the authors from whom he stole his information, and subject himself to whatever discipline his employer sees fit as he surely signed various documents promising to uphold academic integrity at BYU. I'd also like to see BYU undergo a thorough re-examination of its accreditation since it can't be bothered to monitor, much less enforce its own academic standards that are in print.

I mean, you might as well ask me what I think should be done to an Officer who was caught plagiarizing while attending West Point. I think he should suffer the consequences of his dishonesty and lack of integrity.

On a side note, I feel your sense of rootlessness when not employed in your field. After retiring from the Army it has taken me nearly 2 1/2 years to make peace with it. I don't know if I suffered through any sort of depression, but I sure as “F” struggled with the lack of focus of my time, lack of professional purpose, and general aimlessness. So, I appreciate you sharing. It helps to know others experience an emotional upheaval when careers undergo changes.

- Doc

[_DrW]

No, he did not send me here. And frankly, I have had a lot of things going on in my own life. I haven’t checked out this site day in and day out. Excuse me for not responding sooner to a thread or topic that you started. Yes, others have mentioned the plagiarism issue. When I have spoken with Dan about these incidents in the past, he basically told me the same things that he has publicly stated and I accepted him at his word. But YOU initiated THIS thread, and it appears to me that you are determined to bring things to a head. The only point I am trying to make in my response is that you aren’t just playing some kind of game. These are real people and real livelihoods that you are f***ing around with.

Maybe I’m overly sensitive about this because I lost a job due to a layoff and was out of a job for 7 months. I was so depressed I was suicidal. All I’m saying is that when you start accusing people of things in a public forum, it is serious and there are serious consequences that can occur as a result.

Jesse,

Seems to me that DCP is the one playing the game here. He has publicly acknowledged the accusations of plagiarism, and has even offered a mea culpa or two. However, it just seems that he can't help himself.

His name dropping, his datelines from the various places he travels, his flimsy excuses and insincere apologies regarding his behavior, and the overall personna he has created for himself through his writing, have the hallmarks of an inveterate narcissist.

The fact that he seems unable to internalize the fact that he is seen as a plagiarist by other qualified academics and authors just underscores this personna and adds to his predicament.

Those of us who do make their living, or in my case have made their living, from academic work and the peer reviewed publication of said work, have an obligation to see that the standards of that aspect of the profession are maintained and upheld.

There is more than enough unsubstantiated, unreliable and pilfered content in print and on the internet without someone who claims himself to be an academic constantly violating the rules, blurring the lines, and making flimsy excuses for doing so.

There is a lot more that could be said in support of Lemmie's position on this issue. However, since caution is said to be the better part of valor, I will stop here.

[_Jersey Girl]

Seems to me that DCP is the one playing the game here. He has publicly acknowledged the accusations of plagiarism, and has even offered a mea culpa or two. However, it just seems that he can't help himself.

If he has acknowledged the accusations or acknowledged this thread in particular, that's all the heads up that the man needs.

Period.

[_DrW]

Seems to me that DCP is the one playing the game here. He has publicly acknowledged the accusations of plagiarism, and has even offered a mea culpa or two. However, it just seems that he can't help himself.

If he has acknowledged the accusations or acknowledged this thread in particular, that's all the heads up that the man needs.

Period.

His behavior would indicate otherwise.

[_Jersey Girl]

What behavior? Has he or has he not acknowledged the accusations and/or this thread?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

What would you like to see as s result of this documentary.

I would like him to admit to being a plagiarist, make amends to everyone he's called dishonest on this subject, credit the authors from whom he stole his information, and subject himself to whatever discipline his employer sees fit as he surely signed various documents promising to uphold academic integrity at BYU. I'd also like to see BYU undergo a thorough re-examination of its accreditation since it can't be bothered to monitor, much less enforce its own academic standards that are in print.

I mean, you might as well ask me what I think should be done to an Officer who was caught plagiarizing while attending West Point. I think he should suffer the consequences of his dishonesty and lack of integrity.

On a side note, I feel your sense of rootlessness when not employed in your field. After retiring from the Army it has taken me nearly 2 1/2 years to make peace with it. I don't know if I suffered through any sort of depression, but I sure as ____ struggled with the lack of focus of my time, lack of professional purpose, and general aimlessness. So, I appreciate you sharing. It helps to know others experience an emotional upheaval when careers undergo changes.

- Doc

Thank you, Doc. I appreciate your understanding.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

What behavior? Has he or has he not acknowledged the accusations and/or this thread?

As far as I am aware, he has not acknowledged this thread. If he has, I have not read where he has.

He has made public mea cuplas of what he has stated were genuine oversights of author attribution.

The reason I have been asking questions about the intent of this thread is that I do plan on sharing a link with Dan.

[_Jersey Girl]

What behavior? Has he or has he not acknowledged the accusations and/or this thread?

As far as I am aware, he has not acknowledged this thread. If he has, I have not read where he has.

He has made public mea cuplas of what he has stated were genuine oversights of author attribution.

The reason I have been asking questions about the intent of this thread is that I do plan on sharing a link with Dan.

Why? He reads this board like it's his job. Though I haven't sifted through it myself to see if he has acknowledged this thread, I'm more than certain he's read it. He reads anything with his name on it.

That's enough heads up to him that he needs to correct his current and/or previous practices regarding attribution.