Nelsons daughter and son-in-law accused of sex abuse

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The suit claims after the victims came forward, Elder Neil A. Maxwell, a former member of the Church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles who has since passed away, gave them a blessing and told them to "forgive and forget."

https://kutv.com/news/local/daughter-of ... llegations
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Also, in the original investigation, the complaint says that when the mother reported to the police that they would likely find child porn and video at the Miles' house, the police called the Miles to set up an appointment to search their home, telling them what they were looking for.

The accusers are six, first, children from the known pedophiles first wife. They are joined in the suit by children of the second wife. Second wife says had church officials warned her of his pedophilia she would not have married him. But he was a member in good standing.

There is no question that the children were abused. That is established. What remains is whether Nelson's daughter and her husband were involved and if/how much the church covered up the abuse.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I hope my deconstructing the post helps you navigate the complexities and nuance of human social interaction, brother.

LOL

Well, this is quite an allegation, that's fo sho. Reminds me of the pedo couple from the movie Running Scared. And you do raise an interesting point. Like Ford's allegation, this is something that supposedly happened 30+ years ago. Why now? Why is this going to court right now? I am curious if this was filed after Ford's allegations went public. Like maybe they're trying to ride that momentum a bit?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I hope my deconstructing the post helps you navigate the complexities and nuance of human social interaction, brother.

- Doc

I wasn't aware of what Res Ipsa was arguing in the other forum. Now that I know you were referring to him contradicting something he said in an entirely different forum, yes, I can now navigate the complexities and nuance of human social interaction.

(Certainly you can see that without knowledge of what he said elsewhere, your image seems entirely random.)

Rosebud wrote:So how did this all really happen?

Um, through someone molesting children, I'm guessing?
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Water Dog wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I hope my deconstructing the post helps you navigate the complexities and nuance of human social interaction, brother.

LOL

Well, this is quite an allegation, that's fo sho. Reminds me of the pedo couple from the movie Running Scared. And you do raise an interesting point. Like Ford's allegation, this is something that supposedly happened 30+ years ago. Why now? Why is this going to court right now? I am curious if this was filed after Ford's allegations went public. Like maybe they're trying to ride that momentum a bit?

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The complaint was filed yesterday, just in time for conference weekend.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Lemmie wrote:It was really astonishing to read that special piece of nonsense and realize how gullible even the highest of church leaders can be.

So, the 50+ people he interviewed were all lying to him? What do you think was their motive?

What point are you trying to make by asking me that?
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Exiled wrote:The complaint was filed yesterday, just in time for conference weekend.

Well, nothing to be suspicious about there. This goes along with what I was also saying in Spirit Paradise about the Ford debacle working to discredit the exmo community, and movements like Denson and Sam Young. Sensational accusations that lack corroboration cast a huge shadow of doubt over legitimate testimonies. Look at how MG rejected PLDSC because some of the stories published seemed outlandish. I'm sure there are some fake stories on Sam's site, we can admit that. Now this. From the comments here it's sounding like these are very flimsy allegations. Obviously timed to ride Ford's momentum and hit the news cycle right before Conference. SMH.
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Water Dog wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I hope my deconstructing the post helps you navigate the complexities and nuance of human social interaction, brother.

LOL

Well, this is quite an allegation, that's fo sho. Reminds me of the pedo couple from the movie Running Scared. And you do raise an interesting point. Like Ford's allegation, this is something that supposedly happened 30+ years ago. Why now? Why is this going to court right now? I am curious if this was filed after Ford's allegations went public. Like maybe they're trying to ride that momentum a bit?

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Because 30 years ago it was covered up. There was a big media attack of those who stood on the side of the victims. They got scared and became more quiet while they continued believing the victims' reports.
Chronological List of Relevant Documents, Media Reports and Occurrences with Links regarding the lawsuit alleging President Nelson's daughter and son-in-law are sexual predators.

By our own Mary (with maybe some input from me when I can help). Thank you Mary!

Thread about the lawsuit

Thread about Mary's chronological document
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Water Dog wrote:
Exiled wrote:The complaint was filed yesterday, just in time for conference weekend.

Well, nothing to be suspicious about there. This goes along with what I was also saying in Spirit Paradise about the Ford debacle working to discredit the exmo community, and movements like Denson and Sam Young. Sensational accusations that lack corroboration cast a huge shadow of doubt over legitimate testimonies. Look at how MG rejected PLDSC because some of the stories published seemed outlandish. I'm sure there are some fake stories on Sam's site, we can admit that. Now this. From the comments here it's sounding like these are very flimsy allegations. Obviously timed to ride Ford's momentum and hit the news cycle right before Conference. SMH.


Yes, this is a big problem.

And false memories cast a huge shadow of doubt over legitimate testimonies.
Chronological List of Relevant Documents, Media Reports and Occurrences with Links regarding the lawsuit alleging President Nelson's daughter and son-in-law are sexual predators.

By our own Mary (with maybe some input from me when I can help). Thank you Mary!

Thread about the lawsuit

Thread about Mary's chronological document
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If you're sceptical, read the complaint.
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