Questions for Viewers of Coffee With Kish

[hauslern]

Dan Peterson cites an article on the negative effects of coffee. Of course any food taken in excess is bad, for me I struggle with cheese and crackers:

https://www.deseret.com/lifestyle/2024/ ... lth-risks/

Another opinion:

https://www.maxworkouts.com/blog/10-hea ... ing-coffee?

Flauto traverso, Continuo J S Bach.

Ei! wie schmeckt der Coffee süße,
Ah! how sweet coffee tastes!
Lieblicher als tausend Küsse,
Lovelier than a thousand kisses,
Milder als Muskatenwein.
smoother than muscatel wine.
Coffee, Coffee muss ich haben,
Coffee, I must have coffee,
Und wenn jemand mich will laben,
and if anyone wants to give me a treat,
Ach, so schenkt mir Coffee ein!
ah!, just give me some coffee!

[Kishkumen]

Dan Peterson cites an article on the negative effects of coffee. Of course any food taken in excess is bad, for me I struggle with cheese and crackers:

https://www.deseret.com/lifestyle/2024/ ... lth-risks/

Another opinion:

https://www.maxworkouts.com/blog/10-hea ... ing-coffee?

Flauto traverso, Continuo J S Bach.

Ei! wie schmeckt der Coffee süße,
Ah! how sweet coffee tastes!
Lieblicher als tausend Küsse,
Lovelier than a thousand kisses,
Milder als Muskatenwein.
smoother than muscatel wine.
Coffee, Coffee muss ich haben,
Coffee, I must have coffee,
Und wenn jemand mich will laben,
and if anyone wants to give me a treat,
Ach, so schenkt mir Coffee ein!
ah!, just give me some coffee!

Thanks for the tip! I don’t consume quite that much caffeine.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Dan Peterson cites an article on the negative effects of coffee. Of course any food taken in excess is bad, for me I struggle with cheese and crackers:

https://www.deseret.com/lifestyle/2024/ ... lth-risks/

Another opinion:

https://www.maxworkouts.com/blog/10-hea ... ing-coffee?

Anyone who takes health advice from the Afore should have their head examined.

[Tom]

Hey, all:

If you have been watching Coffee with Kish, thank you very much! I appreciate your interest. It means a lot to me that you would take the time to watch these videos. If you have watched or have any interest in watching, I have some questions for you:

1. What is the optimal video length you can reasonably watch?

I ask because YouTube judges the success of a channel by the aggregate time in a year that people have spent watching the channel.

I can reasonably watch several hours, but I find the idea of videos that run 25 minutes each appealing.

2. How many videos a month or week would you be interested in watching?

I ask this for the same reason. I don't want to pump out too many videos in an inefficient way. The idea is to hit a sweet spot where people feel like they want to watch all of the video (right length) and don't feel like there is a flood of too many videos to watch (right frequency).

I’m sensitive to the fact that you carry a heavy teaching and administrative load at Cassius and that classes start soon, so I would say two videos a week. I don’t want to see you burn out—especially as we get deeper into the semester.

3. What do you want to see?

This ought to be the first question, but the above order is how the topics came to me. I want to cover all kinds of things connected to Mormonism that interest people: popular culture, news, history, my story, etc. My eventual goal is to discipline myself to do something like turn out three or so ca. fifteen minute videos a week. So far, I am going over time and producing a lot of videos. I have started to upload them and schedule their release in advance.

Any tips or suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated!

I like the idea of a mixture of interviews, commentary on current events, personal and intellectual history, and book and article reviews. I don’t know if you’ve read George Mitton’s article published in the Daniel Peterson festschrift, “Joseph Smith and the Magical Contest.” It might be a topic for a video or part of a video.

Perhaps you could acquire a review copy of Six Days in August and devote a video to a review.

How about interviews with luminaries such as John Gee, Christopher Blythe, Christine Blythe, Kathleen Flake, Tom Wayment, Todd Compton, Christine Talbot, Dee Jay Nelson, Laurie Maffly-Kipp, William Davis, Stephen Taysom, Richard Nygren, Fiona Givens, Grant Hardy, Brent Metcalfe, John Turner, Christopher Smith, Jonathan Stapley, Ann Taves, David Wright, and Maxine Hanks? The interviews could be 50 minutes long and split into two parts.

Speaking of drinking coffee, here is a news item that Latter-day Saint and non-Latter-day Saint readers might find of interest: ”Coffee a 'miracle' drink with many health benefits, experts say”

Posted from Musk Breath, Utah

[Bond]

Videos no longer than half hour unless you've got dynamite material like a special guest or something. No one wants more than a half hour unless you got drama or something like that. If you record a four hour verbal assault on Monson or Hinckley or whomever break that thing into pieces. People love a cliffhanger that makes them come back.

Pick a release schedule and stick with it. Tuesdays and Fridays or whatever. If you have videos you want to make make them and bank them so you have something to release when you're not feeling it or traveling or whatever.

Also no more than 2 videos a week unless you're responding to late breaking content and are trying to catch the algorithm wave for a moment. No one is going to watch 11 videos a week unless they're 5 mins a piece or are very timely to real world events.

Playlists. If you decide to record a 10 minute short history on every Church President or some other type of series playlist playlist playlist.

[Markk]

Hey, all:

If you have been watching Coffee with Kish, thank you very much! I appreciate your interest. It means a lot to me that you would take the time to watch these videos. If you have watched or have any interest in watching, I have some questions for you:

1. What is the optimal video length you can reasonably watch?

I ask because YouTube judges the success of a channel by the aggregate time in a year that people have spent watching the channel.

2. How many videos a month or week would you be interested in watching?

I ask this for the same reason. I don't want to pump out too many videos in an inefficient way. The idea is to hit a sweet spot where people feel like they want to watch all of the video (right length) and don't feel like there is a flood of too many videos to watch (right frequency).

3. What do you want to see?

This ought to be the first question, but the above order is how the topics came to me. I want to cover all kinds of things connected to Mormonism that interest people: popular culture, news, history, my story, etc. My eventual goal is to discipline myself to do something like turn out three or so ca. fifteen minute videos a week. So far, I am going over time and producing a lot of videos. I have started to upload them and schedule their release in advance.

Any tips or suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated!

I'll give you my two cents on what some one like myself looks for in a "Mormon" podcast.

I commute at least 3 hours a day during the week, and I am always busy around my house doing home improvements or working in my shop. I am a professional listener of podcasts, mostly LDS/Mormon in context.

I listen, and I seldom watch unless it is a "big topic" with a "elite" guess, with a lot of important slides.

John Dehlin is successful in that he understands the show is not about himself, but "the topic," and or the person he in interviewing. I can listen to his podcast while driving or working with ease, while he projects word pictures and almost always keeps the subject focused and to point for the listener first and the viewer second.

RFM also understands this and makes sure the listener first can follow, yet unlike Dehlin injects more of his personality into the podcast because he is a better communicator of a subject and does his home work and is many times more knowledgeable of the subject that those he interviews.... because of his incredible memory and preparation. His sense of humor is invaluable in his success and adds a entertainment value to the podcast.

Reel is a cross between the two, and is a clear communicator and understands the subject, and like RFM does his homework on the subject, with a organized topic.

If you are going to limit your podcasts to just fifteen minutes, and you want to cover topics about the Mormon faith, culture, and history....that will be a huge challenge in my opinion, huge. That is not a long time to work with in discussing the complexity of Mormonism. It would be more of a "musings" type of show to a small few.

I think to be successful you need to know first who your audience is, and be consistent to that audience, and then build on that. What turns me away from many if not the very most podcasts, is that they are scattered, and not listener friendly....and that the podcaster does not do their homework and just "reports" or what another person who has done their homework reported on, an dis just there to hear himself talk.

I know if I go to Mormon Stories, RFM, Mormonism Live, Mormonish....I am going to get a original, well researched, well produced, organized show.... that flows well. I may not like the subject, and will tune out, but I know it is not their fault, just that I don't not give a hoot about the subject

I think I would ask myself "who is the audience I am looking for, and how can I keep them entertained and "hooked" for 15 minutes, 3 times a week." Then make your podcast plan geared to that audience and build a brand with them. Again 15 minutes is not a long time, so you need to get a lot into that short 15 minutes.

Say if you were to touch on the Book of Abraham for 15 minutes....what would you say that would be of interest to a person like your own self with your knowledge of it, that would keep yourself coming back?

I tune into a podcast to learn and for entertainment, why listening not viewing...that is what I personally look for which the above folks deliver.

Again my two cents.

[Kishkumen]

Thank you, Markk. That is extremely valuable. Yes, I am definitely not looking to be like Dehlin or RFM. I want to raise interest in aspects of Mormonism people may not have thought about before in short-form videos. The idea is to hit a neutral tone but one that seeks to pique interest of a nerdy or geeky kind. I want those Nevermos who are just curious about Mormons and Mormonism. I want ex-Mos who still find it interesting. I want LDS people who find I am covering something they didn’t know in a fair and sympathetic way.

I am not going to have the big guests or the glitzy production. I will definitely work on the production, and I will try to get guests whom I want to talk to, but I do not want to compete with Dehlin, RFM, Reel, etc. Honestly, I have no interest in being a journalistic watchdog who tries to hold the LDS Church to account, or who wants to show how it is untrue. Zero interest. Indeed, I want instead to show how interesting it is without investing in any form of advocacy one way or the other.

[Kishkumen]

Videos no longer than half hour unless you've got dynamite material like a special guest or something. No one wants more than a half hour unless you got drama or something like that. If you record a four hour verbal assault on Monson or Hinckley or whomever break that thing into pieces. People love a cliffhanger that makes them come back.

Pick a release schedule and stick with it. Tuesdays and Fridays or whatever. If you have videos you want to make make them and bank them so you have something to release when you're not feeling it or traveling or whatever.

Also no more than 2 videos a week unless you're responding to late breaking content and are trying to catch the algorithm wave for a moment. No one is going to watch 11 videos a week unless they're 5 mins a piece or are very timely to real world events.

Playlists. If you decide to record a 10 minute short history on every Church President or some other type of series playlist playlist playlist.

Awesome, Bond! Great advice and ideas. I do need to hone my approach so I am thinking more strategically. All of this is much appreciated. Playlist yes. I was thinking of doing shorter form videos in their own playlist on different themes each in its own playlist.

[Kishkumen]

Posted from Musk Breath, Utah

Tom,

Your mix matches mine perfectly. On the guest, those are pretty lofty asks, but I have a couple of good interview commitments from people we know who are very interesting and have a lot of worthwhile things to share. I will definitely look into the publication you recommended.

Thanks!

[Tom]

Posted from Musk Breath, Utah

Tom,

Your mix matches mine perfectly. On the guest, those are pretty lofty asks, but I have a couple of good interview commitments from people we know who are very interesting and have a lot of worthwhile things to share. I will definitely look into the publication you recommended.

Thanks!

Having listened to your latest video, might I suggest that you invite your Sunstone Symposium panel respondent to join the program to have a “meeting of the minds”? I didn’t quite get the respondent’s criticism of your paper. That may have been because of time constraints.