Where would Jesus build His temples?

[MG 2.0]

While at the and temple making covenants to be a ‘light unto the world’ there is the added benefit of doing ordinances for those that were not, for one reason or another, able to do them for themselves.

MG2.0, How do you reconcile Hebrews 9:27 and Luke 16:31 with performing temple ordinances for the deceased?

Heb. 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

The LDS Church believes that Peter was given the sealing power:

Matthew 16:19
13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 18:18

18Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

These two scriptures in the New Testament are used as proof texts that show the Apostles/Disciples receiving power to seal on earth and in heaven. The church doctrine stipulates that this same sealing power is given to modern day Apostles and the keys that they have received…as did Peter…are used to seal families together for eternity in the temples which have been dedicated for that purpose.

Temples are probably the ‘one big thing’ that separate the CofJcofLDS from other Christian churches, along with the Priesthood authority to perform sacred ordinances.

Sure, there are other doctrines that are unique to the church, but it is what goes on in the temples that truly stands out.

Regards,
MG

[msnobody]

MG2.0, How do you reconcile Hebrews 9:27 and Luke 16:31 with performing temple ordinances for the deceased?

Heb. 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

The LDS Church believes that Peter was given the sealing power:

Matthew 16:19
13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 18:18

18Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

These two scriptures in the New Testament are used as proof texts that show the Apostles/Disciples receiving power to seal on earth and in heaven. The church doctrine stipulates that this same sealing power is given to modern day Apostles and the keys that they have received…as did Peter…are used to seal families together for eternity in the temples which have been dedicated for that purpose.

Temples are probably the ‘one big thing’ that separate the CofJcofLDS from other Christian churches, along with the Priesthood authority to perform sacred ordinances.

Sure, there are other doctrines that are unique to the church, but it is what goes on in the temples that truly stands out.

Regards,
MG

What good does it do to baptize by proxy the deceased if once comes death, then judgement, or if one didn’t accept the things of God while living, as the Scriptures seem to indicate that they wouldn’t if given the choice after death?

It is adding to the work of Christ (his insufficiency to be the provision for every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realm for the believer) that separates TCoJCoLDS from other Christian churches.

[Fence Sitter]

Any discussion on what Jesus (God?) would do should probably begin with who/what each person thinks he is. Someone who believes that humanity is the pinnacle of God's creation and Jesus is a separate being from God the Father, is never going to agree with someone else who worships a trinitarian God of Grace. Eisegeses are pointless and can be used to support any point of view. How does someone who believes in 'sola scriptura' have a meaningful discussion with someone who believes in living prophets and an expanding canon?

[sock puppet]

To the OP, from my reading of the New Testament (granted it was long ago), I don't recall Jesus building any temples but he did feed people. That's a bit of a contrast with His "one true church" on earth today.

[MG 2.0]

Any discussion on what Jesus (God?) would do should probably begin with who/what each person thinks he is. Someone who believes that humanity is the pinnacle of God's creation and Jesus is a separate being from God the Father, is never going to agree with someone else who worships a trinitarian God of Grace. Eisegeses are pointless and can be used to support any point of view. How does someone who believes in 'sola scriptura' have a meaningful discussion with someone who believes in living prophets and an expanding canon?

You make a good point Fence Sitter.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor Steuss]

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That temples would be built in areas that can be considered safe and accessible does not surprise me.
[...]

It's unfortunate that you feel your deity won't make areas safe where his kingdom on earth is built, and instead needs already safe areas. Faith of a mustard seed, and all that jazz.

[Abaddon]

[...]
That temples would be built in areas that can be considered safe and accessible does not surprise me.
[...]

It's unfortunate that you feel your deity won't make areas safe where his kingdom on earth is built, and instead needs already safe areas. Faith of a mustard seed, and all that jazz.

Also from MG: "It is through us that His work is accomplished. He can’t do it alone."

Jesus could do the atonement alone, but Temple work is too much. Jesus can reveal the location of a Temple in an upscale area, but it's too much to protect a Temple in an unsafe area (though it doesn't seem to stop Jesus sending missionaries into unsafe areas).

At least MG's logic is consistent: Jesus is really powerful, but not like, really, really powerful.

[Moksha]

Matthew 18:18

Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Regards,
MG

Isn't this also a line from the 1996 movie The Craft starring Robin Tunney as Sarah (it also had the cute Fairuza Balk in it)?

[msnobody]

Any discussion on what Jesus (God?) would do should probably begin with who/what each person thinks he is. Someone who believes that humanity is the pinnacle of God's creation and Jesus is a separate being from God the Father, is never going to agree with someone else who worships a trinitarian God of Grace. Eisegeses are pointless and can be used to support any point of view. How does someone who believes in 'sola scriptura' have a meaningful discussion with someone who believes in living prophets and an expanding canon?

Holy Spirit can make it a meaningful exchange.

[msnobody]

This thought just came to mind. Did Jesus have a dereliction of duty by not performing sealings in the temple?