How often "plates" are discussed here.
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We all have the far more important something in common of humanity as well.......MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:09 pmYou and Denver Snuffer have something in common.Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 12:56 pmI notice that about all religious subjects from the church as well. It is interesting. It's like its stuck in a groove with no forward understanding and knowledge. It was one reason I went elsewhere looking for more light and knowledge that Father promised.![]()
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Well said. And if each one of us can remember that and then try to treat each other accordingly, that is the greatest gift humans can give each other.Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 2:19 amWe all have the far more important something in common of humanity as well.......
We all can always improve in that respect.
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How are you going to keep that in mind MG, how will that remembrance change how you talk about the posters on this board - who you recently referred to as “folks” who participate in “circle jerks”?MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 4:33 amWell said. And if each one of us can remember that and then try to treat each other accordingly, that is the greatest gift humans can give each other.Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 2:19 amWe all have the far more important something in common of humanity as well.......
We all can always improve in that respect.
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Well, yes, of course you do! But why would it be obvious to others that the Book of Mormon is in a different category from Big Foot? Joseph Smith chose to publicize what he did, and his narrative is obviously sensational in nature. It was at the time he first told it. Whether you want to accept the negative with the positive attention or not, the narrative itself guarantees to attract all kinds of skeptical interest.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 8:24 pmPotentially. Lots of things are interesting and even worth looking at out of interest. Some investigations involve those things which may or may not be of eternal veracity and worth. I would place those investigations in a different category than, say, Bigfoot or Loch Ness Monster.
Now UAP's, that's another thing.![]()
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No argument there. Been there, done that. Still do here and there.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 2:10 pmWell, yes, of course you do! But why would it be obvious to others that the Book of Mormon is in a different category from Big Foot? Joseph Smith chose to publicize what he did, and his narrative is obviously sensational in nature. It was at the time he first told it. Whether you want to accept the negative with the positive attention or not, the narrative itself guarantees to attract all kinds of skeptical interest.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 8:24 pmPotentially. Lots of things are interesting and even worth looking at out of interest. Some investigations involve those things which may or may not be of eternal veracity and worth. I would place those investigations in a different category than, say, Bigfoot or Loch Ness Monster.
Now UAP's, that's another thing.![]()
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It's not a slam dunk with the Book of Mormon is it?
I don't put the Book of Mormon in the same category as the other things you've listed. It seems to me that it deserves a bit more investigative work.
Cost/benefit.
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It’s been investigated. KJV Bible content has been found in it. So it’s not what it claims to be. End of. Slam dunk.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 4:33 pmNo argument there. Been there, done that. Still do here and there.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 2:10 pmWell, yes, of course you do! But why would it be obvious to others that the Book of Mormon is in a different category from Big Foot? Joseph Smith chose to publicize what he did, and his narrative is obviously sensational in nature. It was at the time he first told it. Whether you want to accept the negative with the positive attention or not, the narrative itself guarantees to attract all kinds of skeptical interest.
It's not a slam dunk with the Book of Mormon is it?![]()
I don't put the Book of Mormon in the same category as the other things you've listed. It seems to me that it deserves a bit more investigative work.
Cost/benefit.
Regards,
MG
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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One irony for me is that the Brighamite Mormons don't even faithfully follow the Book of Mormon.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:23 pmIt’s been investigated. KJV Bible content has been found in it. So it’s not what it claims to be. End of. Slam dunk.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 4:33 pmNo argument there. Been there, done that. Still do here and there.
It's not a slam dunk with the Book of Mormon is it?![]()
I don't put the Book of Mormon in the same category as the other things you've listed. It seems to me that it deserves a bit more investigative work.
Cost/benefit.
Regards,
MG
3 Nephi 1:40 And whoso shall declare more or less than this [sermon], and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them. --The Book of Mormon Jesus.
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Yes. Mormon doctrine has a convenient relationship with scripture.bill4long wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2026 2:05 amOne irony for me is that the Brighamite Mormons don't even faithfully follow the Book of Mormon.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:23 pmIt’s been investigated. KJV Bible content has been found in it. So it’s not what it claims to be. End of. Slam dunk.
3 Nephi 1:40 And whoso shall declare more or less than this [sermon], and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them. --The Book of Mormon Jesus.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Less discussed is the “angel” they claim to have seen:
"In regards to my testimony to the visitation of the angel, who declared to us three witnesses that the Book of Mormon is true, I have this to say: Of course we were in the spirit when we had the view, for no man can behold the face of an angel, except in a spiritual view, but we were in the body also, and everything was as natural to us, as it is at any time. Martin Harris, you say, called it "being in vision." We read in the Scriptures, Cornelius saw, in a vision, an angel of God, Daniel saw an angel in a vision, also in other places it states they saw an angel in the spirit. A bright light enveloped us where we were, that filled at noon day, and there in a vision, or in the spirit, we saw and heard just as it is stated in my testimony in the Book of Mormon. I am now passed eighty-two years old, and I have a brother J. J. Snyder, to do my writing for me, at my dictation.”
"In regards to my testimony to the visitation of the angel, who declared to us three witnesses that the Book of Mormon is true, I have this to say: Of course we were in the spirit when we had the view, for no man can behold the face of an angel, except in a spiritual view, but we were in the body also, and everything was as natural to us, as it is at any time. Martin Harris, you say, called it "being in vision." We read in the Scriptures, Cornelius saw, in a vision, an angel of God, Daniel saw an angel in a vision, also in other places it states they saw an angel in the spirit. A bright light enveloped us where we were, that filled at noon day, and there in a vision, or in the spirit, we saw and heard just as it is stated in my testimony in the Book of Mormon. I am now passed eighty-two years old, and I have a brother J. J. Snyder, to do my writing for me, at my dictation.”