Falling out between Dehlin and Kate Kelly?

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lostindc wrote:Or it doesn't have to be either of the two options you posted. It's okay for you to just say you "don't know." Maybe go easy on rosebud, I doubt you will.



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How do you know rosebud hurt herself professional by airing her personal information? Wtf do you know about the criteria needed to be successful in the fields rosebud walks?

The criteria in ALL professional fields includes the minimum--do your best to keep your professional life and your representation thereof- resume, c.v., web presence, etc.- professional. Voluntarily linking your professional bio to a web presence that is on a years long cycle where you publicly play the woman scorned, make accusations of sexual impropriety, hint at wrong-doing, cry victim and generally sound crazy crazy regardless of how you are actually doing, and then repeat over and over and over violates a universal criteria.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Her first post on this thread.


The best observation on the thread. People who have moved on don't engage in such behavior.


So far as I am concerned, she defined herself by her first move.
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Lemmie wrote:
How do you know rosebud hurt herself professional by airing her personal information? Wtf do you know about the criteria needed to be successful in the fields rosebud walks?

The criteria in ALL professional fields includes the minimum--do your best to keep your professional life and your representation thereof- resume, c.v., web presence, etc.- professional. Voluntarily linking your professional bio to a web presence that is on a years long cycle where you publicly play the woman scorned, make accusations of sexual impropriety, hint at wrong-doing, cry victim and generally sound crazy crazy regardless of how you are actually doing, and then repeat over and over and over violates a universal criteria.


You stated it much better than I did, I'm still going to repost my comments for comparison.


She is not doing herself any favors by engaging in a relationship with him on this message board in full public view, letting out more details about their relationship, and accompanying that with her website URL.

If she is brilliant as you say, I can tell you that she's not smart enough (yet) to keep her personal life separate from her professional life and she's proven that right on this very thread. She cannot use her expertise and education in psychology and particularly in the area of early childhood to help others unless and until she learns to use it to help herself.


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This is how you protect your victim narrative.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
lostindc wrote:Or it doesn't have to be either of the two options you posted. It's okay for you to just say you "don't know." Maybe go easy on rosebud, I doubt you will.

Life is tough. Deal with it like the rest of the world does.

Stay focused.

Also, if you get a chance, start another thread discussing how the rest of the world deals with the toughness of life.

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Jersey Girl wrote:This isn't how you protect a career. This is how you ensure that you'll never have what you claim that you desire.

This is how you protect your victim narrative.

Thanks career counselor Jersey Girl.

So for rosebud, expressing her personal life and trials on the internet is going to hurt her career? Glad you know rosebud's personal situation. You seem so worked up over rosebud right now, maybe take a break from rosebud and dehlin threads. In the exmo world this is topic is front and center today.
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lostindc wrote:Stay focused.

Why, did it look like I drifted away?

Also, if you get a chance, start another thread discussing how the rest of the world deals with the toughness of life.

I don't have to. The information has been provided on this very thread by myself and others.

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You said it. I am a female reading the comments of another female on a public message board, responding to them as I see fit. What I see is a female who trades in innuendo, hasn't broken free of a relationship, who engages in self sabotage by linking her website to the personal drama she has posted here.
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lostindc wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:This isn't how you protect a career. This is how you ensure that you'll never have what you claim that you desire.

This is how you protect your victim narrative.

Thanks career counselor Jersey Girl.

So for rosebud, expressing her personal life and trials on the internet is going to hurt her career? Glad you know rosebud's personal situation. You seem so worked up over rosebud right now, maybe take a break from rosebud and dehlin threads. In the exmo world this is topic is front and center today.

Worked up?

These are common sense issues of professional discipline. They are being violated before my eyes (and Lemmie's apparently).

I wouldn't know Rosebud's personal situation had she not dished it up freely and in front of my very eyes.
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Re: Falling out between Dehlin and Kate Kelly?

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My take on Lemmie and Jersey's comments is that they want the best for Rosebud. What is to be gained by posting this stuff here? Does it further legal action against JD? Vindicate Rosebud professionally or in the eyes of the larger post-Mormon community? Is it mostly about indulging in an unhealthy preoccupation with JD?

I think the last makes the most sense because I don't see that this is accomplishing much else. I guess it can feel good to vent about this stuff. If someone else thinks Dehlin is a douchebag, time to cue up the chorus and feel mutually validated.

I do sympathize to an extent, at least in principle. JD is Rosebud's DCP.
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Re: Falling out between Dehlin and Kate Kelly?

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Rosebud

I'm a nevermo and mostly a lurker.

I've come late to this drama, and I have compassion for you and your children for having been caught up in it. May I offer you one piece of unsolicited advice?

Please consider deleting the link to your in real life profile.
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