Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Moksha wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:21 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:59 am


What about it? If you want to go off on that…feel free to do so. :)

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I just thought it was a fascinating concept from the first time I heard it, much like the LDS idea that Joseph Smith had been ordained to the office of Holy Ghost. Sort of miss insights like that from the FAIR board.
That’s an interesting theory. Fringe? As far as your premortal council goes…fringe theory also?

As it is, I don’t think anything I’ve said in regards to Jesus Christ having a unique roll/mission is fringe. :)

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:02 am
Jesus was different. Read the New Testament again.
I hope it will not offend you if I say that the New Testament is not a piece of neutral reportage about the young man from Nazareth. It is, rather, an account of him (several accounts in fact) written down some decades after his death by a group of people broadly linked by the belief that he WAS different. The views of those who did not see him as much more than just another prophet are not included.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:25 pm
...I know folks here are wary of A.I. as am I (I’ve had incorrect and/or hallucinatory answers from inquiries)...
You? You are now 'wary' of A.I.?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:59 am
He taught us how to pray to that same Father. Had this ever been done by any of the other mystics, men/gods, or healers?
Yes. John The Baptist taught people how to pray.
Since John the Baptist was the forerunner of Jesus who prepares the way for Jesus, there are many similarities between their ministries. John taught his disciples how to pray. Jesus also taught his disciples how to pray. But there is less information on the pattern of the prayer taught by John.
https://christianity.stackexchange.com/ ... ptist-pray
1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Are you sure you actually read the Bible?
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:15 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:25 pm
...I know folks here are wary of A.I. as am I (I’ve had incorrect and/or hallucinatory answers from inquiries)...
You? You are now 'wary' of A.I.?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It’s remarkable that he thinks he can gaslight the board.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:02 am
Morley wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:39 pm


MG, what specific claim are you suggesting that Jesus made?
I think that is rather self evident from what I’ve already said.
Morley wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:39 pm


Every prophet claims association with God. Every prophet teaches that we should obey God.
Jesus was different. Read the New Testament again.

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MG
If it's evident, then you can easily point it out.

I don't need to read it again. Me reading The New Testament again has nothing to do with your assertion. You're saying Jesus was different from others in any other religion. Specifically, how does Jesus, himself, claim that he was different? The holy writings of every religion associates their prophets with God. For instance, have you read the Qur'an? Have you asked a rabbi about this? How much have you looked at Buddhism?
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:15 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:25 pm
...I know folks here are wary of A.I. as am I (I’ve had incorrect and/or hallucinatory answers from inquiries)...
You? You are now 'wary' of A.I.?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm not the best writer. I struggle with punctuation and grammar. A.I. tools can help smooth out my writing, but they sometimes strip away important details with conclusions. It's like working with an editor – you get an A.I. draft back, but then you have to re-insert the facts you want to keep.

I wouldn't rely on A.I. for factual information, unless it's something like the history of the Holy Roman Empire or the military blunders of the Charge of the Light Brigade.

That said, A.I. is improving rapidly. I recently read online that GPT-4o recently jumped 30 IQ points to 120 and is now acing Mensa tests. If it keeps improving at this rate, who knows what the future holds.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:32 pm
Hi all. Some of you may be familiar with the work of Jacob Hansen of “A Thoughtful Faith” fame. I’m listening to a debate dealing with the topic named as the header for this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/live/9V_N0cRqzQ ... PLIHsMB1lA

Another addition to the ongoing discussion in regards to the truth claims of the Book of Mormon.

I think Jacob holds up pretty well. At least from what I’ve listened to so far. Your mileage may vary, of course.

I’ll leave it to others to debate the merits of Jacob’s debate with a well read apologist for Catholicism.

It’s either them or us!

I hope all the ‘regulars’ (and everyone else) are happy and that life is going well. It’s been a good summer. Fall is on its way.

Regards,
MG
Divinely inspired would be in the same category as "tasty" or "beautiful." Completely subjective and in the eye of the beholder. I'm not sure how it could even been debated one way or the other.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:59 am

The Axial Religions (see Karen Armstrong) or Abrahamic covenant religions do have their roots in ‘one God’ worship. That came first. Jesus came and taught the gospel of salvation and gave further light and knowledge as to our relationship to God as our Father and our obligation to follow all of His commandments. A higher law. At the time that Jesus was coming into the world it appears that the relationship of humanity to a Father in Heaven was and/or had not been fully given/taught.
If you got all of that from Armstrong's History of God, you didn't read it very closely.
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:59 am

Jesus was the One.
Every religion teaches this about their founder. (Example: Muhammad, peace be upon him, was the One, the Seal of the Prophets.)
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:59 am

He taught humanity concerning the one God that is worshipped as our Father in Heaven. He taught us how to pray to that same Father. Had this ever been done by any of the other mystics, men/gods, or healers?
Yes.



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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:17 am
[It’s remarkable that he thinks he can gaslight the board.
His posting style depends on it.
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