“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

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I had a look at Bro Boylan's blog, and was really impressed ...

... by how poorly he argued his case on https://scripturalmormonism.blogspot.co ... tland.html

Unfortunately there was nowhere to make a comment.

He has comments disabled on all his YouTube videos as well.

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To be honest, I think this whole debacle was beneath Bill Reel even getting involved in.

He is absolutely killing it every week it on Mormonism Live, and he really doesn’t need to waste time on the apologetic drama.

It’s a win for the apologists if they can drag him into this nonsense. Even if they look bad. They don’t have a reputation to uphold, it’s already beyond trashed.

NOT to the continuing faithful who are feeling trapped and hurting WITHIN the church and continually being brain fed by apologetics in order to keep them in. Bill knows this is pure gold that will help tens of thousands make that final decision to STOP BEING DECEIVED by the church and ITS MINIONS. You are being too short sighted. This is not about Bill. It is about helping many more tens of thousands SEE THE REALITY of the STUPIDITY of the what the church has produced people wise, and they think they are better off within it.

And the very best way is to strike it right where it counts, their egos and personal self-judgmental righteousness. Who on this green earth would EVER want to associate with the Interpreter folk after seeing them as they really are?!? This kind of ridiculously embarrassing action and words and thinking within Mormon apologetics is the further light and knowledge Father promised us to help us be freed of the slavery shackles, and those who try and persuade many to stay in their shackles in a false freedom.

This is exactly why the church deliberately keeps apologists at a distance. They can easily disavow any knowledge or association of them when they screw up.

They’re the “Wagner group” of Mormonism.

[Philo Sofee]

I had a look at Bro Boylan's blog, and was really impressed ...

... by how poorly he argued his case on https://scripturalmormonism.blogspot.co ... tland.html

Unfortunately there was nowhere to make a comment.

He has comments disabled on all his YouTube videos as well.

But, of course...

[Philo Sofee]

NOT to the continuing faithful who are feeling trapped and hurting WITHIN the church and continually being brain fed by apologetics in order to keep them in. Bill knows this is pure gold that will help tens of thousands make that final decision to STOP BEING DECEIVED by the church and ITS MINIONS. You are being too short sighted. This is not about Bill. It is about helping many more tens of thousands SEE THE REALITY of the STUPIDITY of the what the church has produced people wise, and they think they are better off within it.

And the very best way is to strike it right where it counts, their egos and personal self-judgmental righteousness. Who on this green earth would EVER want to associate with the Interpreter folk after seeing them as they really are?!? This kind of ridiculously embarrassing action and words and thinking within Mormon apologetics is the further light and knowledge Father promised us to help us be freed of the slavery shackles, and those who try and persuade many to stay in their shackles in a false freedom.

This is exactly why the church deliberately keeps apologists at a distance. They can easily disavow any knowledge or association of them when they screw up.

They’re the “Wagner group” of Mormonism.

A spot on observation. They have no revelation from Jesus to teach truth, and they know it, so they imagine they can continually fake out the world about their lacking it, and we are onto them, and they have no backbone to back up their own scholars when they goof... and they truly goof all the time as so many, so very many of us bloggers, message boarders, and podcasters continually demonstrate with the evidence of their own scriptures and own history and own doctrines and own policies... all man made make believe.

[Moksha]

It’s a win for the apologists if they can drag him into this nonsense. Even if they look bad. They don’t have a reputation to uphold, it’s already beyond trashed.

If Bill Reel does not expose apologist tactics such as trying to assign the blame for hit pieces on an elderly Mormon, on a black man, when in fact it was another LDS member from a rogue paramilitary faction, then who will? This stuff is so bizarre it would hold a Ripley's Believe it or Not fascination for non-LDS readers.

[Marcus]

At first, I thought this was going to be some sort of mopologist-esque nonapology from Boylan, but no. Not even that:

APR 3
Reformed Apologist Engaging in Projection

In psychology, projection is

"a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings."

This is exemplified by Calvinism’s greatest proof of the truth of total depravity and Catholicism's doctrine of invincible ignorance, James Hazelton, when he said this about yours truly:

James Hazelton:
No amount of depravity would surprise me about Robert Boylan.

In realty, Hazelton is a documented liar and false teacher. Don’t take my word for it. See the following:

The Inconsistency of Evangelical Critics of the "Great Apostasy" and the Lack of "Proto-Protestants" in the First Christian Millennium

James Hazelton Continues to Lie Through His Teeth

Reformed Protestant "Checklist" Salvation and Assurance

Baptismal Regeneration in the Writings of Gaius Marius Victorinus (290-364) (Hazelton, proving he is not just biblically illiterate, proved himself to be illiterate of early Christian writings by copying-and-pasting Matt Slick of CARM who claimed Victorinus did not teach baptismal regeneration)

The truth is that Hazelton is a totally depraved individual who cannot exegete his way out of a paper bag, whether it be the biblical texts or early Christian writings.

Posted 19 hours ago by Robert Boylan
https://scripturalmormonism.blogspot.co ... w=flipcard

"documented liar"? That is projection, indeed.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

At first, I thought this was going to be some sort of mopologist-esque nonapology from Boylan, but no. Not even that:

APR 3
Reformed Apologist Engaging in Projection

In psychology, projection is [snip]

Wanna know how I know he reads this board?

… invincible ignorance …

Bob,

Get your crap together and just apologize for your racist joke. This is not going well for you.

- Doc

eta - Good Lord. Robert Boylan is more vicious than I thought. From his exchange with Hazleton (linked above):

Hazelton is misrepresenting our exchange. The guy is, as one bookstore owner in Utah would put it, a human mattress stain

[Marcus]

At first, I thought this was going to be some sort of mopologist-esque nonapology from Boylan, but no. Not even that:

Wanna know how I know he reads this board?

… invincible ignorance …

Bob,

Get your crap together and just apologize for your racist joke. This is not going well for you.

- Doc

I'm sure he's already being shunned by fellow mopologists as the proverbial fall guy, but close to a month ago, this prescient remark described the group effort:

What DCP is spinning makes no sense. Boylan found out about Neville Neville's author from Mike Parker in his guise as Richard Nygren. "Peter Pan" then expresses his regret that so much information about the blog got out. This means he accepted the identification as Nygren, no doubt because he is the one who revealed that information to Boylan....

It makes no sense to me either. All “Peter Pan” had to do was correct the misinformation by posting on his blog that he was not Nygren. No one who knew the actual identity of Peter Pan ever corrected the claim that Peter Pan was Nygren. When Peterson tried, but could not find, the alleged black apologist, he didn’t question his existence but expressed his hope that he does exist. And he never set the record straight after learning who Peter Pan really was....

And an earlier comment from Peterson's, when he clearly knew the situation:

DanielPeterson Mod Jack
2 hours ago
Jack: "I believe some of them are purposefully building false narratives"

I'm quite confident that that is true of at least one of them.

The 'them' refers to 'Brother Peterson's detractors.' In other words, someone here.

It's falling a little flat though, as he is obviously just trying to shift the attention away from the Mormon apologists who have been caught and actually ARE 'purposefully building false narratives.'

[MormonDiscussionInc]

UPDATE

Mike Parker did exactly the textbook response of someone for whom the light is shining brighter and brighter on their egregious unhealthy act. And I had anticipated such. I knew he wouldn't sue and told him so and explained why. a.k.a. - Such would allow me to subpoena all of them and ask so many questions about what happened, where, when and where data point leads. So he suddenly drops the lawsuit idea because he is Christlike.

Claims only after I have shown them I am going public and won't be intimidated by his threats that he couldn't come clean about Boylan when he absolutely could have in his blog post revealing himself as Parker.

Claims I haven't messaged everyone. Parker did message me originally. But after he said to not message him again unless I was retracting and apologizing I messaged again telling him I was excited for the lawsuit and I couldn't wait to Subpoena everyone and that I messaged the others (Which I can prove). I emailed Boylan and included RFM and others in the email. I Facebook messaged Kraus but strangely he has his Facebook messages set not to receive messages from me (I have proof of all of this). I messaged Peterson and asked him to forward the message to Smoot. So Smoot the only one I didn't message directly and that is the one he uses knowing his buddies were messaged.... isn't that so obviously apparent? He could have easily and likely did speak to the others. Why else would Kraus who I have never spoken to have his messages set as to not receive them from me when I don't know the guy and Don't believe I have ever spoke to him before this.

Did he not expect me to address each of these showing how it shows what appears to be a guilty person covering their ass?

Look someday, they will get me. They will shine a light on something I say or do and I will have to own it and apologize. And yes, I will own it and apologize. But I am not stupid. And one of my gifts is that my brain thinks through all of the possibilities of what each chess move will bring and cause. I am constantly in my head working to be 2 or 3 steps ahead of the other person.... and this couldn't be playing out better.

1.) I tried sincerely to give each of them a chance to talk. My hope is one of the younger guys (Kraus Maybe) wouldn't want this blemish. And he would come forward to discuss this fiasco. But I also knew they wouldn't. One angle one might sense is there would be too much pressure within the group to go along with the strongest voices and those voices have the strongest self interest.

2.) Mike threatened to Sue me. First I knew he didn't have a libel case. I am allowed to report on allegations and also explain why such a thing if true is not going to look good. I called his bluff. If he sues me I get to expose the whole thing in a courtroom. His best play is what he did. needing multiple people to take the stand in a courtroom and need them to say a certain set of things is risky.

3.) I was counting on such a response. Hoping for it. It increases the coverage of who will watch and the optics of this will look pretty reasonable that this was a reaction to the walls closing in. I was counting on him panicking and doing almost verbatim this. Sadly Boylan will take the fall and seems willing to do so.

4.) Mike's explanations here seem to be straining at the data and creating "Plausible Deniability" but Mike doesn't even know 4 or 5 of the data points we will be showing that have not been discussed yet. It connects these guys all together and shows they are all friends working to ruin Neville's line of thinking. And I have one more unknown piece that Mike isn't aware of. One might think this will look worse with him having done this.

[Marcus]

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eta - Good Lord. Robert Boylan is more vicious than I thought. From his exchange with Hazleton (linked above):

Hazelton is misrepresenting our exchange. The guy is, as one bookstore owner in Utah would put it, a human mattress stain

Yes. And recall Boylan's earlier comment about low IQ?

Update: can someone pass this onto Bowman--Rob: Maria broke into your computer again. No way you would write something as low IQ as Doubling Down on Diversionary Polemics: Robert Boylan’s Response on Moroni’s Move, you know, being the top-notch biblical scholar you truly are.

Maria is Bowman's 26 year old daughter.