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_beastie
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How on earth could a person be banned from reading the posts?


Not only can banned members NOT read the pundits forum, but some also have their IPs "banned", so to speak, so they can't even view the regular board unless they use a proxy server.

This hasn't happened to me, but has happened to several people who post here.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
maklelan wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
maklelan wrote:I didn't mean to misrepresent you. Fro mwhat I understood, there was something that would have shown up over there around or before October. You mentioned other persons and other sites as involved as well, but I didn't know whether all of this took place over there or not. I apologize for misunderstanding.


maklelan,

If you didn't mean to misrepresent me, why have you chosen not to correct your post and allowed the misunderstanding to stand?

Jersey Girl


I edited my post immediately after responding to your previous post.


Thank you. Did anyone address the previous ruling?

Jersey Girl


This was the response from one of the moderators:

You can comment as much as you want. wink. This is a different board now. Cross-posting calls will by made on a case by case basis. But we would prefer that links are not put up or if it is a clean thread that a warning be posted along with it so people know they are entering a sight that promotes vulgarity and obsenity. Nobody is expected to go to offensive message boards to defend themselves and posting here does seem to make our people a target. If they talk about you you can respond here as long as the bad content isn't brought over or linked to.
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Post by _maklelan »

beastie wrote:
How on earth could a person be banned from reading the posts?


Not only can banned members NOT read the pundits forum, but some also have their IPs "banned", so to speak, so they can't even view the regular board unless they use a proxy server.

This hasn't happened to me, but has happened to several people who post here.


That's crazy.

The Pundit forum is moving pretty slow right now anyway. You're not missing anything unless you're overly concerned about the Kirtland Egyptian Papers or some religious movement that has to do with apostates.
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Post by _Jersey Girl »

maklelan wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
maklelan wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
maklelan wrote:I didn't mean to misrepresent you. Fro mwhat I understood, there was something that would have shown up over there around or before October. You mentioned other persons and other sites as involved as well, but I didn't know whether all of this took place over there or not. I apologize for misunderstanding.


maklelan,

If you didn't mean to misrepresent me, why have you chosen not to correct your post and allowed the misunderstanding to stand?

Jersey Girl


I edited my post immediately after responding to your previous post.


Thank you. Did anyone address the previous ruling?

Jersey Girl


This was the response from one of the moderators:

You can comment as much as you want. wink. This is a different board now. Cross-posting calls will by made on a case by case basis. But we would prefer that links are not put up or if it is a clean thread that a warning be posted along with it so people know they are entering a sight that promotes vulgarity and obsenity. Nobody is expected to go to offensive message boards to defend themselves and posting here does seem to make our people a target. If they talk about you you can respond here as long as the bad content isn't brought over or linked to.


The moderator response you posted above indicates that the moderation team did not address the previous ruling.

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Post by _Jersey Girl »

maklelan wrote:
beastie wrote:
How on earth could a person be banned from reading the posts?


Not only can banned members NOT read the pundits forum, but some also have their IPs "banned", so to speak, so they can't even view the regular board unless they use a proxy server.

This hasn't happened to me, but has happened to several people who post here.


That's crazy.

The Pundit forum is moving pretty slow right now anyway. You're not missing anything unless you're overly concerned about the Kirtland Egyptian Papers or some religious movement that has to do with apostates.


What beastie stated may seem crazy to you however, it is exactly the truth.

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Post by _Jersey Girl »

maklelan,

So far as I can tell there have been a heavy dose of disparaging remarks about this board but no one has bothered to address the topic of the thread in question. Perhaps you can let us know when it get's back on track.

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Post by _maklelan »

Jersey Girl wrote:
maklelan wrote:
beastie wrote:
How on earth could a person be banned from reading the posts?


Not only can banned members NOT read the pundits forum, but some also have their IPs "banned", so to speak, so they can't even view the regular board unless they use a proxy server.

This hasn't happened to me, but has happened to several people who post here.


That's crazy.

The Pundit forum is moving pretty slow right now anyway. You're not missing anything unless you're overly concerned about the Kirtland Egyptian Papers or some religious movement that has to do with apostates.


What beastie stated may seem crazy to you however, it is exactly the truth.

Jersey Girl


I meant that the situation is crazy (that it's a weird and unfortunate situation), not that his suggestion is crazy.
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maklelan wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
maklelan wrote:
beastie wrote:
How on earth could a person be banned from reading the posts?


Not only can banned members NOT read the pundits forum, but some also have their IPs "banned", so to speak, so they can't even view the regular board unless they use a proxy server.

This hasn't happened to me, but has happened to several people who post here.


That's crazy.

The Pundit forum is moving pretty slow right now anyway. You're not missing anything unless you're overly concerned about the Kirtland Egyptian Papers or some religious movement that has to do with apostates.


What beastie stated may seem crazy to you however, it is exactly the truth.

Jersey Girl


I meant that the situation is crazy (that it's a weird and unfortunate situation), not that his suggestion is crazy.


I agree that the situation is crazy. It appears that you aren't aware of some of the events that posters (including myself) have mentioned to you. I would only ask that you inspect the thread in question and notice how posters have avoided responding to David's OP. Note too, that according to the moderator comments you are a registered and active poster on a board that carries "vulgar" and "obscene" content.

What is your reaction to that? Does it bother you? If not, why not?

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Post by _maklelan »

Jersey Girl wrote:
How on earth
I agree that the situation is crazy. It appears that you aren't aware of some of the events that posters (including myself) have mentioned to you.


Most likely. I go there for stimulating conversation, not just for gossip. The board is run by people with normal emotions and accidents.

Jersey Girl wrote:I would only ask that you inspect the thread in question and notice how posters have avoided responding to David's OP.


I think the thread was tongue-in-cheek. The idea was that people were implying that there was some kind of canonized idea about Qumran being a proto-Mormon community, or something like that. David is just as aware as everyone else that that is ridiculous. Several people played along, and others pointed out the Dead Sea Scrolls video that features a Dr. Pike sans-glasses, and Dr. Parry with quite a great deal more hair than he currently sports, in which they brought up that idea and shot it right back down.

Jersey Girl wrote:Note too, that according to the moderator comments you are a registered and active poster on a board that carries "vulgar" and "obscene" content.

What is your reaction to that? Does it bother you? If not, why not?

Jersey Girl


It does not bother me at all. I'm not as sensitive as a lot of people. As a convert to the church I've been exposed to everything and my family still enjoys exposing me to vulgar stuff. I don't even notice it. I do, however, notice the dumbest arguments in the world coming out of the Terestrial Forum.
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Post by _harmony »

maklelan wrote:
harmony wrote:
Brackite wrote:OK, I am back now. They are now having a disucussion about this on the MA& Board in that Discussion Thread there whether or not they are allow to Post links to other Message Boards, whether those other Message Boards are considered "anti" or not. Here are the Posts that are going on there:

maklelan:
There are several people on that board in a huff because they believe it is against our rules to post links to their board. Can anyone comment on this?


Maklelan, if this is an example of your posting persona, perhaps it is no wonder you are a Pundit there.

#1. No one is in a huff here.


Then why a whole thread dedicated to complaining about a rule that may or may not have been made? I've noticed, also, that if I criticize someone's argument here I get criticized even heavier for being critical. I've been told that all opinions are welcome, but I seem to get jumped on for speaking my opinion. Before I amde a single derogatory statement I was told that making fun of Mormons is the only way to derive any good out of Mormonism. I think that's a disgusting thing to say, and my criticism was aimed at that individual, and they have yet to respond. Because of my criticism of that person I'm suddenly attacked for disrespecting your entire board. I've already apologized several times for misunderstandings that I have taken responsibility for and people are still jumping down my throat. What gives?


"What gives?" On the MAD board, you posted that we are in a huff here. I pointed out that we aren't, but you say I'm jumping down your throat when I point that out? Who's the super sensitive one now? I didn't jump down your throat. If that counts as jumping down your throat, you might want to invest in an asbestos suit, because you're surely going to feel like you're constantly getting flamed, even when you aren't.

We comment often on the vagarities of the MAD folk. Some of us here are victims of the arbitrary nature of their moderating styles, and so when someone sees something off-the-wall, they bring the comments here, for those of us who are excommunicated from FAIR/MAD, and cast into the pit of fire and brimstone. Unfortunately for those who run MAD/FAIR, we who are thus cast out have created a nice little neighborhood here, where we chat, discuss, critique, and comment without the constant threat of expulsion looming o'er us, and so we do... chat, discuss, critique, and comment about many things, including MAD/FAIR and the LDS church.

harmony wrote:#2. No one here cares what the rules of MAD are. We just think they're generally pretty stupid.


The rules or the people?


The rules. Many of us have friends who still post on MAD/FAIR, even though we have been judged, excommunicated and banished, more often than not, without justification or a fair trial.

harmony wrote:#3. We have posters that report what's happening on the MAD/FAIR board simply because some of us have been banned from reading or posting at MAD/FAIR, so they bring us the news of what's happening there.


How on earth could a person be banned from reading the posts?
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Do you doubt me? Do not. I am telling the truth. Several of us are not only excommunicated, we are banished. We cannot even view the MAD board. A few of us circumvent that, using proxy servers. Some of us refuse to do that. I am one of the banished, banned only because of who I am. If you don't know the story, perhaps someone will tell you. Or you can get a bit of it from reading Shades' blog.
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