suicide bombers

Post by **_beastie** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:53 am

dart -

You may be interested in this debate:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php? ... ost3997555

I found it last week but haven't had the emotional energy to read it yet. I find this discussion very depressing in general, so I can only take it in bits and pieces.

Post by **_dartagnan** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:24 pm

Yes I was already aware of that debate, but thank's for bringing it up again I almost forgot.

Post by **_harmony** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:53 pm

After reading this thread, I'm left with a question: does it really matter what the average Muslim believes? What really matters is what the Muslim terrorist believes, isn't it? Just as the average Christian doesn't believe that God really killed every living soul except Noah and his family, the average Muslim doesn't believe Allah wants all non-Muslims dead. But is there a consensus that all terrorist Muslims do believe that Allah wants all non-Muslims dead? Because it seems to me like those should be the guys we're worrying about. (And just because Dearborn residents allowed themselves to be taken over by bells doesn't mean people are so accommodating anywhere else)

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:59 pm

harmony wrote:After reading this thread, I'm left with a question: does it really matter what the average Muslim believes? What really matters is what the Muslim terrorist believes, isn't it? Just as the average Christian doesn't believe that God really killed every living soul except Noah and his family, the average Muslim doesn't believe Allah wants all non-Muslims dead. But is there a consensus that all terrorist Muslims do believe that Allah wants all non-Muslims dead? Because it seems to me like those should be the guys we're worrying about. (And just because Dearborn residents allowed themselves to be taken over by bells doesn't mean people are so accommodating anywhere else)

It should matter, but the newspeople don't want a story about everyday people doing everyday things. They want action, emotion, anger, death and destruction. Suicide bombers provide all those things, which means the newspeople get to make money by showing the bombers. The media is a powerful tool, and it really shapes our view of the world, and the people in it.

I would like to see Muslims try to "take over" a southern town though. All the southern stereotypes would be all full display. Needless to say, I don't think the southerners would be as accomodating to Muslims as "those soft wussy liberals" in Michigan.

Bond...Southerner Bond

edit: I don't think Michiganites are soft wussy liberals. Just trying to make a point about regional differences and perceptions.

Post by **_dartagnan** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:35 pm

Actually, there is a Muslim foothold in south Alabama of all places and there doesn't appear to be any resistance. The professor from Uinversity of South Florida who was deported on terror related charges, had created quite a following down there- those who actually support him and insist the justice system there is racist, anti-Islam, bla bla bla... CAIR reps who are based down there are on the radio frequently defending him.

There doesn't seem to be too much resistance from those Florida crackers either.

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:41 pm

dartagnan wrote:Actually, there is a Muslim foothold in south Alabama of all places and there doesn't appear to be any resistance. The professor from Uinversity of South Florida who was deported on terror related charges, had created quite a following down there- those who actually support him and insist the justice system there is racist, anti-Islam, bla bla bla... CAIR reps who are based down there are on the radio frequently defending him.

There doesn't seem to be too much resistance from those Florida crackers either.

Is that the same place where the guy is running pig races next door to mess with the Muslims?

I think the south is rebounding from the whole "KKK rejection of civil rights for a hundred years after the Civil War" thing by trying to going super nice with all groups. It must be a small group if there's no outrage yet. I think the whole point is that if there's only 2 million Muslims in America that aren't doing anything wrong we shouldn't worry about it.

Post by **_dartagnan** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:18 pm

hahahaha..

No I believe that was somewhere in Texas. Just outside Dallas or Houston I believe.