why me wrote:Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?
Matthew 26:7-13. You'll find that most Christians don't object to the cost of the gospel being preached, and would not see this DVD as a waste.
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why me wrote:Excuse me for imposing myself on this thread but I wonder what exactly is the cost for producing the DVD? To my understanding such dvds are not free to make. Someone is out of pocket for this right? Now I know that all here, especially the critics are balanced :=) in their posting but I have not seen one post criticize the the cost of this dvd production. You see, ladies and gents, such money could have went to the poor and to all those in need. Instead, it went into making this dvd. Now isn't that a waste of good christian money? What would Christ think of such waste? And so many Americans in need these days. And I am sure that this dvd is not edible. Right?
Matthew 26:7-13. You'll find that most Christians don't object to the cost of the gospel being preached, and would not see this DVD as a waste.
Why Me,
It's no different than the LDS church spending money for missionary work trying to convince other faiths that they are the true church and the others are false.
If you want to start a thread on where all the LDS tithing money goes compared to other faiths, I would like to see how much is spent on all the children and people who are in need and starving. That would be interesting. This DVD is a drop in the bucket compared to the money wasted on frivelous purchases, the conference center (that wasn't necessary) and lame cheesy LDS commercials about family....isn't it about ... time?"
"Happiness is the object and design of our existence... That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
Before we accuse them of skullduggery, it's important to point out that someone put the video, in its entirety, up on the net on Google Videos. That's where I managed to watch it a week or so ago, I forget exactly when. It's not like the FAIR folks had to do anything untoward to get a copy of it, all they had to do was click a link someone posted on the MAD board to Google Videos and watch it.
So we're to believe that FAIR "managed to get a copy" by going to google videos? If so, then it is odd they don't simply say so. And who put it up on google anyway?
Before we accuse them of skullduggery, it's important to point out that someone put the video, in its entirety, up on the net on Google Videos. That's where I managed to watch it a week or so ago, I forget exactly when. It's not like the FAIR folks had to do anything untoward to get a copy of it, all they had to do was click a link someone posted on the MAD board to Google Videos and watch it.
So we're to believe that FAIR "managed to get a copy" by going to google videos? If so, then it is odd they don't simply say so. And who put it up on google anyway?
Who puts anything on You Tube or Google Video? Who knows?
You sound like a paranoid conspiricist (from thi and your last post). The DVD itself stated why they didn't want it to get into the hands of the LDS church before Sunday 3/25 (did you miss that).
Seven wrote:Why Me, It's no different than the LDS church spending money for missionary work trying to convince other faiths that they are the true church and the others are false.
Perhaps it's just because I'm a brainwashed, robotic sheep with no sense of objectivity or intelligence, but I see a difference between serving people for two years while trying to inspire them to want to learn more (by the way, at our own cost, not the church's), and spending millions of dollars on trying to force a DVD into Mormon homes that attempts to tear down their faith. Show me one official LDS church publication that has the sole purpose of telling another religion what it believes and why it's wrong.
Seven wrote:Why Me, It's no different than the LDS church spending money for missionary work trying to convince other faiths that they are the true church and the others are false.
Perhaps it's just because I'm a brainwashed, robotic sheep with no sense of objectivity or intelligence, but I see a difference between serving people for two years while trying to inspire them to want to learn more (by the way, at our own cost, not the church's), and spending millions of dollars on trying to force a DVD into Mormon homes that attempts to tear down their faith.
That's an irregular verb, isn't it?
* First person singular: My church sacrifices its own money to inspire those who want to learn more
* Second person singular: Your church spends money on trying to convert people to join
* Third person singular: His church pours millions of dollars into attacking other people's religions
All depends on your point of view, doesn't it?
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Well, 9 minutes into the summary I discovered I was facing myself in the man that was speaking. That's pretty much how I felt.
Does it help to have a Tanner in their movie? I don't think so. They don't realize how badly she has failed over the years. It was critics like her that led me to conclude that the anti movement was Satanic. She just embellished so much that I just couldn't take her seriously.
Regardless, they were pretty much accurate on what little research they had done.
Serving people for 2 years to try to inspire them to want to learn more? Don't know what mission you were in, but in my mission people tracted and accosted folks on the street with bogus "surveys" for 2 years. It wasn't service except perhaps by a peculiarly jargonized Mormon definition of the word, and it didn't inspire very many to want to learn more.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
maklelan wrote:Show me one official LDS church publication that has the sole purpose of telling another religion what it believes and why it's wrong.
So is it OK for the LDS church to attack all religions by saying none of them are true, but it would be bad if they attacked just one and said something like "The Catholic Church is not true and God looks at their creeds and this sect as an abomination because God the Father visited Joseph Smith and said so."
Sometimes I think the LDS think they are OK because they attack all religion in general if it is not LDS.
Fortigurn wrote: That's an irregular verb, isn't it?
* First person singular: My church sacrifices its own money to inspire those who want to learn more
But it's not the church, it's the individual.
Fortigurn wrote:* Second person singular: Your church spends money on trying to convert people to join
* Third person singular: His church pours millions of dollars into attacking other people's religions
All depends on your point of view, doesn't it?
I'm trying to point out that our church does not spend a dime on interpreting other people's religions for them or telling them why their beliefs are wrong. Trying to compare missionary work to this is a fallacy. They differ in every aspect except for a broad generalization about trying to convert others.