Is Mormonism a cult?

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_KimberlyAnn
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Chad (Swedeboy) Spjut wrote:For me the question is not so much if Mormonism is a cult, but to what extreme the cult of Mormonism controls the hearts and minds of it membership. Mormonism is an organization that requires group think, group conformity etc. to be successful. The individual is marginalized in the effort to support the group at all costs. This for me is what causes the definition of cult, a mind controlling, or a will controlling organization to be so readily applied to Mormonism.

As an active Mormon, I was always told I was free to choose which course I could take, no one would force me. But that is not true. Yes, not once did anyone show up at my home with a gun and force me to church. Mormonism is much more insidious than that. Mormonism uses guilt, coercion, manipulation and spiritual gangersterism to ensure compliance with its edicts; there is very little of "free agency" involved. Fear is the great controller of Mormonism, and if the god of Mormonism uses the tools of coercion, fear and manipulation, then he is no better than his opposite, even Lucifer himself. The former blood oaths of the temple truly show that fear is the tool of choice and dare I say the grease to keep the wheels of Mormonism rolling. Even the doctrine of eternal families is abhorrent and fear laden, "If you don't do it our way, say good bye to your family!" It would seem that the Cosa Nostra have nothing on the Mormon Church!

Mormonism has moved away from its bloody past of nailing the testicles of dissidents to ward house walls ala Bishop Snow, but it still uses the spiritual testicular squeeze to ensure compliance and obedience at all costs. Mormonism is an obedience organization. The attribute prized by all authoritarian organizations, regardless if they are labeled as a cult or not.

So yes, I would say Mormonism is a cult, but a cult on par with the Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientology etc. One must make distinctions in ones definitions from time to time.


Chad! I'm thrilled to see your reply and to see you paid a visit to this board! Mwa!

You know I agree with you. I don't even need to say it, do I?

I think groups and allegiances can do people good, but Mormonism is too stifling and controlling. Direction and belonging can be found in many other organizations much less totalitarian than Mormonism.

And is using the testicular squeeze method of ensuring compliance always wrong? If so, I'd better go apologize to my husband... :P

KA
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Re: Is Mormonism a cult?

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KimberlyAnn wrote:
Is Mormonism a cult?


If it's not true, yes. If it is true, no.

Regards,
MG
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Given the value-neutral scholarly definition of "cult", I think Mormonism can fairly be described as a space alien cult.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

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KimberlyAnn wrote:
wenglund wrote:If Kimberlyann needs to label the LDS Church as a "cult" in order to feel better about her current Christian faith, then I suppose there is little harm in that.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Huh?

I'm still trying to figure out where I am religiously, or if I'm even religious at all. I don't know what you're talking about.

KA


Will it help your undersanding if I phrased it this way: "If Kimberlyann needs to label the LDS Church as a 'cult' in order to feel better about her confused religious state of mind, then I suppose there is little harm in that"?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:Will it help your undersanding if I phrased it this way: "If Kimberlyann needs to label the LDS Church as a 'cult' in order to feel better about her confused religious state of mind, then I suppose there is little harm in that"?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Super. You're a genius.
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Re: Is Mormonism a cult?

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mentalgymnast wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:
Is Mormonism a cult?


If it's not true, yes. If it is true, no.

Regards,
MG


Interesting, MG. So it all boils down to if it's true or not? That sure enough makes it simple, though it doesn't bring us any closer to a consensus, lol! I'm more certain Mormonism isn't true than I ever believed it was true, and I was a very devout believer.

KA
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wenglund wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:
wenglund wrote:If Kimberlyann needs to label the LDS Church as a "cult" in order to feel better about her current Christian faith, then I suppose there is little harm in that.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Huh?

I'm still trying to figure out where I am religiously, or if I'm even religious at all. I don't know what you're talking about.

KA


Will it help your undersanding if I phrased it this way: "If Kimberlyann needs to label the LDS Church as a 'cult' in order to feel better about her confused religious state of mind, then I suppose there is little harm in that"?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


First of all, welcome back, Wade!

;)

The problem I have with your comment is that I don't think that KA has a confused state of mind regarding her religion. She seems very sure of her own beliefs.
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liz3564 wrote:
wenglund wrote:
Will it help your undersanding if I phrased it this way: "If Kimberlyann needs to label the LDS Church as a 'cult' in order to feel better about her confused religious state of mind, then I suppose there is little harm in that"?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


First of all, welcome back, Wade!

;)

The problem I have with your comment is that I don't think that KA has a confused state of mind regarding her religion. She seems very sure of her own beliefs.
If anyone is in a "confused state of mind regarding their religion", that would be Wade.

How old is this guy? Yet is not married. Oh yeah, he is following the tenants of his religion.
The only difference between him and Ray A. is Wade is still a member. Neither one lives their religion to a T.

Guess what Wade? You will not make it in the CK unless you get yourself a wifey.
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Gadianton wrote:Given the value-neutral scholarly definition of "cult", I think Mormonism can fairly be described as a space alien cult.


LOL!
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Post by _Ray A »

Tarski wrote:I once asked Michael Shermer his opinion on this.
He said the mainstream LDS church is not a cult but that it was when it started.


I hope Steve Benson and his ilk don't get wind of this. They'd be disappointed to learn that the skeptic of skeptics doesn't think contemporary Mormonism is a cult. But, Steve, whatever floats your boat, and gets your goat.
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