Old before their time?

[_The Nehor]

When it comes to religious dress accouterments, are belts or suspenders holier?
What about spats?
Oxfords versus slip ons?
Would penny-loafers show an eye toward fiscal conservatism, thus being praiseworthy?

I favor tutus and gorilla masks.

[_The Nehor]

Okay, and the religions themselves are wrong in different ways.

Depends what you mean by religion.

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

Okay, and the religions themselves are wrong in different ways.

Depends what you mean by religion.

I don't mean anything but the common garden variety understanding of what the word "religion" means in English. You can spin it any way you want, but I'll stand by my statement as is.

[_Ray A]

To put it as succintly as possible ... up yours.

I'm sure your life is the model of perfection and grace, eh?

We're all just trying to find our own niche and make it through the day. Some of that includes postings here.

If you don't like it, tough.

And you come here to find "truth", do you? The "truth" about the woman you married. The "truth" about the religion she believes in. You are oh-so-wary that she was indoctrinated into this religion based on "feeling", but I'm sure she didn't marry you on rational deductions. Or did she? If she did, then here is my advice to you - watch out!

[_Ray A]

Nothing could be further from the truth, Ozemc. Ray A is a bonafide nutcase, who has been carrying on, and on, and on, and on about how horrible ex-Mormons are.

And Scratch has been carrying on, and on, and on, and on, and on, about how horrible DCP is. And the Church. Scratch kettle - meet Scratch pot.

The reasons for this are complex,

Your little vindictive mind is not capable of comprehending anything complex.

So, you see, Ozemc, if you too begin to smooch Ray's heinie, he will fall head-over-heels in love with you, and will praise you up and down the messageboards. Further, if you show up at his house and don't look down your nose at him, he will be smitten beyond compare.

And if you even try to "smooch" up to me, I will kick your sorry ass to kingdom come.

The truth about Ray is that he is one of the biggest flip-floppers in the history of online Mormonism. He is worse than Will Schryver, and worse than any number of the Mopologists who turned exmo. Ray's massive "about face" is equivalent in gravity to a theoretical return to the LDS Church on the part of Steve Benson or Tal Bachman or Ed Decker.

That's because I have a brain, which you don't, and I can think, and weigh issues. You are nothing but a sad, vindictive, grudge looking for a blog to win your ignorant, fawning admirers. You have a deflated ego looking for approval, especially angry exmo approval - and you find it by attacking Mormons and Mormonism. In short, you are just a pathetic wart on humanity.

[_Ray A]

The reasons for this are complex, but they most definitely involve a combination of A) Someone on Exmo-social calling his daughter a "crack whore";

The person on Exmo-Social who called my daughter this name was a poster named "bat". Now I don't know who "bat" is, but many do. I know this leech is well known as a typical angry exmo. The only thing I have to say to "bat" is - if you ever arrive in Australia, I hope you have adequate medical insurance, because if I find out who you are, you are pulp. Not even an apology will compensate for a statement like that. You are Perdition, as far as I am concerned.

This "bat" is symptomatic of so many angry exmos I have seen on the net, and while this influenced my opinion of exmos to a great degree, I realise there are many (no, actually, some) reasonable exmos.

The thing is - what motivates a "human being" to be so callous? And exmos want me to side with their cause? I would not appease this alligator, even if it has to eat me first. This is just a symptom of the wider spectrum of exmoism. You have so many arseholes speaking on your behalf that it's difficult not to think of this as symptomatic of exmoism.

I have the right to defend myself, and particularly the honour of my daughters. You can say what you will about me, but if you insult my daughters - you are scum. Unforgiveable scum. And this is not the only thing that has shaped my opinion about the bastardry of exmos.

[_The Nehor]

Okay, and the religions themselves are wrong in different ways.

Depends what you mean by religion.

I don't mean anything but the common garden variety understanding of what the word "religion" means in English. You can spin it any way you want, but I'll stand by my statement as is.

I meant that seriously. If by religion you mean the great true mythology through which God reveals himself then there is one and it is not wrong. If by religion you mean what everyone means when they talk about 'their religion' then you are right. Mine is wrong as well. Still ironing it out.

[_gramps]

Hi Ray,

Why don't you forgive him? It will eat away at your soul if you don't, you know? Even calling your daughter such despicable things is no reason to let it eat you up inside, is it?

Some people have a hard time getting over things. It seems you do to, just like the rest of us.

[_Yoda]

The reasons for this are complex, but they most definitely involve a combination of A) Someone on Exmo-social calling his daughter a "crack whore";

The person on Exmo-Social who called my daughter this name was a poster named "bat". Now I don't know who "bat" is, but many do. I know this leech is well known as a typical angry exmo. The only thing I have to say to "bat" is - if you ever arrive in Australia, I hope you have adequate medical insurance, because if I find out who you are, you are pulp. Not even an apology will compensate for a statement like that. You are Perdition, as far as I am concerned.

This "bat" is symptomatic of so many angry exmos I have seen on the net, and while this influenced my opinion of exmos to a great degree, I realise there are many (no, actually, some) reasonable exmos.

The thing is - what motivates a "human being" to be so callous? And exmos want me to side with their cause? I would not appease this alligator, even if it has to eat me first. This is just a symptom of the wider spectrum of exmoism. You have so many arseholes speaking on your behalf that it's difficult not to think of this as symptomatic of exmoism.

I have the right to defend myself, and particularly the honour of my daughters. You can say what you will about me, but if you insult my daughters - you are scum. Unforgiveable scum. And this is not the only thing that has shaped my opinion about the bastardry of exmos.

I completely understand, Ray. This guy who insulted your daughter was complete scum. There was no excuse for it.

I think there are bad apples on both sides of the tree, though.

A poster on FAIR insulted my daughter as well. This poster was supposedly a good Mormon. I read him the riot act as well.

Unfortunately, I think that some people are just plain mean, no matter what religion they are. It's really unfortunate and disheartening.

:(

[_Ray A]

Hi Ray,

Why don't you forgive him? It will eat away at your soul if you don't, you know? Even calling your daughter such despicable things is no reason to let it eat you up inside, is it?

Some people have a hard time getting over things. It seems you do to, just like the rest of us.

Gramps, your aside is meaningless. You are trying to suggest that I should "get over" this as I suggest exmos should get over their negative Mormon experience. Apples and oranges. Slug me all you like, and I can wear it, and even get over it. But touch my daughters, and I will kill you.