Newsflash: Will Schryver is a meanie

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Can somebody please explain to me the difference between "egregious behavior" on the MA&D board and this one? It is obvious there are two different defintions in place.
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charity wrote:Can somebody please explain to me the difference between "egregious behavior" on the MA&D board and this one? It is obviousl there are two different defintions in place.


There isn't any difference. People do terrible things to each other. However, I must say I've never seen anything here that approaches the intensely personal attack that Will engaged in.

I generally don't read certain people's posts because I know what they will contain. But everyone here knows where I stand.
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charity wrote:Can somebody please explain to me the difference between "egregious behavior" on the MA&D board and this one? It is obvious there are two different defintions in place.


It's not the difference between the egregious behavior here and there. It's the MAD mod reaction to the same egregious behavior of the TBMs and critics on that board that generates such interest. One gets repimanded and banned for the same behavior the other gets a slap on the wrist for.

We all know the same behavior takes place here by both TBMs and critics. So? Neither gets banned here. That's the point. The critics get slammed and the TBMs get a slap on the wrist there for the same behavior; neither gets banned here.
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harmony wrote:It's not the difference between the egregious behavior here and there. It's the MAD mod reaction to the same egregious behavior of the TBMs and critics on that board that generates such interest. One gets repimanded and banned for the same behavior the other gets a slap on the wrist for.

We all know the same behavior takes place here by both TBMs and critics. So? Neither gets banned here. That's the point. The critics get slammed and the TBMs get a slap on the wrist there for the same behavior; neither gets banned here.


Exactly. If I had said anything like what Will said, I would have been banned on the spot. Heck, I've been told that if I even complain about such things on that board, I'll be banned.

The initial mod response was unfortunately typical for that board. I was glad to see that they responded more appropriately later.
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Harmony wrote:We all know the same behavior takes place here by both TBMs and critics. So? Neither gets banned here. That's the point. The critics get slammed and the TBMs get a slap on the wrist there for the same behavior; neither gets banned here.


That's exactly the point. There is gross inconsistency with MAD Mods following their own rules. That's where the fascination comes in.
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Runtu wrote:
charity wrote:Can somebody please explain to me the difference between "egregious behavior" on the MA&D board and this one? It is obviousl there are two different defintions in place.


There isn't any difference. People do terrible things to each other. However, I must say I've never seen anything here that approaches the intensely personal attack that Will engaged in.

I generally don't read certain people's posts because I know what they will contain. But everyone here knows where I stand.


Some Schmo wrote:charity, I'm going to put this as nicely and gently as I can, because I've made a New Year's resolution to try to be nicer in the forums...

You're a moron. I'm amazed you have the brain power to turn on a computer without sacrificing whatever neurons are necessary to keeping your vital organs working. Unbelievable. If you really want people to believe in the church, I highly recommend you shut the f*** up.
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:13 am


Moniker wrote:
You are cruel, hateful, and intolerant! Trying to put yourself into some elevated moral position in this thread sickens me!

Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:49 pm


I can't find the post where beastie said I must be h*** to live with. Dartagnan has repeatedly called me an idiot, and Infymus. . . . . well, you all know the kind of attacks he engages in.

I realize this is a lightly moderated board. I don't expect Dr. Shades to jump in. But did you notice all the LDS who jumped to your defense over there runtu? And where were my defenders here?

Pardon me if I see a double standard.
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I can't find the post where beastie said I must be h*** to live with. Dartagnan has repeatedly called me an idiot, and Infymus. . . . . well, you all know the kind of attacks he engages in.

I realize this is a lightly moderated board. I don't expect Dr. Shades to jump in. But did you notice all the LDS who jumped to your defense over there runtu? And where were my defenders here?

Pardon me if I see a double standard.


A couple of points:

You quoted from the very people whose posts I generally don't read. So, if you missed it before, let me say again that the personal attacks on you have been unwarranted, unkind, and totally inappropriate. And I've seen people like liz defend you here. But don't expect me to defend you from posts I don't read, unless you bring them to my attention.

As for the personal attacks, I guess I see a difference between namecalling (which I still object to) and suggesting that my marriage is inevitably headed toward divorce because of my hateful anti-Mormon indoctrination of my children and my incessant lying. Frankly, I'd much rather be called an idiot.

I was quite gratified that LDS and non-LDS posters defended me over there. That meant a lot to me. But I find it highly ironic that the mods over there lauded people for "walloping" Will, whereas I have been told repeatedly that if I comment on another person's tone, I will be banned immediately.
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Charity wrote:I realize this is a lightly moderated board. I don't expect Dr. Shades to jump in. But did you notice all the LDS who jumped to your defense over there runtu? And where were my defenders here?

Pardon me if I see a double standard.


As Runtu pointed out, I have defended you on multiple occasions on the board. Several others have as well.

Also, as far as how I operate, if there is one on one confrontation between posters, I will usually leave it alone if both parties are sufficiently getting their points across. In both of the instances you listed, you did a very good job of defending yourself. There was no need for me to come to your rescue. In my assessment, you did not need rescuing.

Had you PM'd me, however, I would have jumped in. I have done that for friends before.

What is crossing the line, in my opinion, is when a poster drags someone's family into it. If anyone here had insulted your husband, your children, your grandchildren, I would have been first in line to give them a royal ass chewing and they know it. ;)

As much as Coggins and I have disagreed on issues, when he was personally attacked, and someone (I believe it was Mercury) brought up his former alcoholism as a slam, I raked him over the coals for it.

Bob Crockett, who I have had more disagreements with than anyone else on the board, can attest to the fact that when some idiot posted his personal information on the board, I did everything within my power to try to track that person down.

So, no, Charity, I don't see a double standard.
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Charity,

I agree with you that the personal attacks here are WAY too frequent and WAY too harsh. I think the moderation policy should be expanded to limit personal attacks.

I have the utmost respect for you that you choose to continue posting here, even after the names you are called.
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Scottie wrote:Charity,

I agree with you that the personal attacks here are WAY too frequent and WAY too harsh. I think the moderation policy should be expanded to limit personal attacks.


That's ultimately up to Shades, but I wouldn't have a problem supporting that at all. I agree.

Scottie wrote:I have the utmost respect for you that you choose to continue posting here, even after the names you are called.


As do I.
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