Mormon Temples give the poors a taste of the good life

[drumdude]

Earth must atone for the blood of that man.

Jesus apparently did not atone enough to cover the crowned Joseph Smith, mingling with Gods.

[MG 2.0]

Earth must atone for the blood of that man.

Jesus apparently did not atone enough to cover the crowned Joseph Smith, mingling with Gods.

I’m trying to wrap my mind around Jesus being synonymous with the earth in this instance. False equivalency maybe?

If not, maybe you can explain it a little better.

I’m not seeing how Jesus even enters into this particular equation.

A little help?

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

Jesus apparently did not atone enough to cover the crowned Joseph Smith, mingling with Gods.

I’m trying to wrap my mind around Jesus being synonymous with the earth in this instance. False equivalency maybe?

If not, maybe you can explain it a little better.

I’m not seeing how Jesus even enters into this particular equation.

A little help?

Regards,
MG

In traditional Christianity Jesus Christ atoned for everything, everywhere. Including anyone murdering anyone else.

In the song, the death of Joseph Smith is so monumental that "the earth" must somehow atone for his death.

[MG 2.0]

I’m trying to wrap my mind around Jesus being synonymous with the earth in this instance. False equivalency maybe?

If not, maybe you can explain it a little better.

I’m not seeing how Jesus even enters into this particular equation.

A little help?

Regards,
MG

In traditional Christianity Jesus Christ atoned for everything, everywhere. Including anyone murdering anyone else.

OK. A little quibble on the “anyone”, but this isn’t the thread for that.

In the song, the death of Joseph Smith is so monumental that "the earth" must somehow atone for his death.

OK. So “the earth”, not Christ must atone for the blood of Joseph Smith.

Of course, it’s debatable what ‘the earth’ might be referring to in this instance…but that’s another thread also.

I think we’ve straightened it out for now. Really not sure what kind of ‘deal’/issue you were trying to make. But we’re meandering off thread…

Regards,
MG

[Gadianton]

I think it's pretty much just the Nielson family behind this project.

The church is building so many temples that you can't really claim to be part of the Mormon elite if you don't have one in your backyard, can you?

very helpful. Thank you. MG 2.0 replied thusly to Sophocles' helpful answer:

Honestly? I’m not even sure where you’re headed with this statement. Are you equating ‘elitism’ with worthiness to receive blessings?

He provided a direct answer to my question regarding what members are publicly advocating for the temple. According to Sophocles, the main advocate is a millionaire Mormon developer or something. Do you disagree? Can you point to anybody save a lone millionaire who is fighting for the Mormon temple to be built? Oh, I mean anybody from Cody, not DCP or Rusty the Tin Man Nelson.

said that members sing Praise To the Man to Joseph Smith.

when people sing "happy birthday to Gad" they are usually singing happy birthday to me. I think.

Tallahassee, Florida is getting a temple, and I can tell you that it is something local LDS people did hope and pray for, as well as regularly talk about in meetings, for years. I thought it was kind of crazy of them, or at least wildly unrealistic.

On my substantially remote mission, the members had stories about their plight to get a temple. It was a big deal for them. Sure, it's possible that the Mormons of Cody have been praying for this temple and that it's a big deal to them. But maybe not. Times have changed. Temple attendance is down. Rusty's vision for a thousand temples seems to be a vanity build. It's also could be a token gesture to justify the 100B+ fund -- the tip of the Latter-Day iceberg of preparations for what's next.

I'll have a lot more sympathy for building the temple if there are members in Cody longing for it; if it's more than just conspicuous consumption for Rusty and Mr. Nielson. DCP's case would be stronger if he could point to a blog or article somewhere, where a regular member talks about their desire for the temple -- shares their story about what the temple will mean for them. As it stands, he's bordering on bearing false witness by claiming the "Saints of Cody" are the protagonists in the fight.

As far as I'm concerned given what's been revealed so far, the residents of Cody are justified to put all their high-powered rifles to good use and blast those lights out as needed.

[msnobody]

I do think, however, that those that truly have an opportunity to understand the Joseph Smith story and then knowingly reject the Lord’s prophets will one day have to account for and be judged in respect to that choice.

That is what my 20-ish years ago missionaries told me, that God would hold me accountable.

So be it! If Jesus isn’t enough/all sufficient, then God isn’t worthy of worship.

[msnobody]

When I was attending, for years the closest temple was LA, which was at least 1.5 hours away given traffic. So we wouldn't go that often, and when we did, it was usually in a carpool with friends and dinner either before or after. It was an event that helped offset how boring the endowment ceremony is.

They then built one 30 minutes away, and anything enjoyable was lost.

Ok , I cannot help but ask. Msnobody why would you wish to have one closer. 40 miles is pretty close unless you want to put your self through it every week. When I was growing up the closest was 5 hundred miles away. I was in Pacific Northwest. I certainly see toon's view.

I suppose if I were a temple worker or something, I’d like it to be close by.

[MG 2.0]

…the main advocate is a millionaire Mormon developer or something. Do you disagree?

https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/loc ... fe906.html

Glenn Nielson. He donated the land. Awesome.

Do you think he is ‘elite’ because he was already rich and decided to donate land to the church?

What do you think he has to gain from having been a benefactor?

When philanthropic actions are taken by individuals does that make them elitist?

I am glad to know that you agree with me that members who attend the temple do not consider themselves to be elitist.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I do think, however, that those that truly have an opportunity to understand the Joseph Smith story and then knowingly reject the Lord’s prophets will one day have to account for and be judged in respect to that choice.

That is what my 20-ish years ago missionaries told me, that God would hold me accountable.

So be it! If Jesus isn’t enough/all sufficient, then God isn’t worthy of worship.

There are a LOT of good and honest Christians who believe as you do.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

…when people sing "happy birthday to Gad" they are usually singing happy birthday to me. I think.

One would think. When members sing Praise To the Man, however, they are not singing Happy Birthday to Joseph Smith. They are singing praises to the Lord for calling and sustaining a prophet…and succeeding prophets…in the latter days.

Regards,
MG