Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
User avatar
Gadianton
God
Posts: 5425
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:56 pm
Location: Elsewhere

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by Gadianton »

I watched a couple of his videos this weekend and they were very good. They get to the point and don't meander. He seems to do them in a single take rather than splicing the good takes, which would itself show awareness that editing is important, but it's another bonus. In the time you've watched a full video and learned some things, an Interpreter video would still be deep in "is this mic on?" territory.
Social distancing has likely already begun to flatten the curve...Continue to research good antivirals and vaccine candidates. Make everyone wear masks. -- J.D. Vance
User avatar
sock puppet
1st Quorum of 70
Posts: 749
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:29 pm

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by sock puppet »

Gadianton wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 4:07 pm
I watched a couple of his videos this weekend and they were very good. They get to the point and don't meander. He seems to do them in a single take rather than splicing the good takes, which would itself show awareness that editing is important, but it's another bonus. In the time you've watched a full video and learned some things, an Interpreter video would still be deep in "is this mic on?" territory.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
"Only the atheist realizes how morally objectionable it is for survivors of catastrophe to believe themselves spared by a loving god, while this same God drowned infants in their cribs." Sam Harris
huckelberry
God
Posts: 3381
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:48 pm

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by huckelberry »

Gadianton wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 4:07 pm
I watched a couple of his videos this weekend and they were very good. They get to the point and don't meander. He seems to do them in a single take rather than splicing the good takes, which would itself show awareness that editing is important, but it's another bonus. In the time you've watched a full video and learned some things, an Interpreter video would still be deep in "is this mic on?" territory.
I have watched a number of his presentations and appreciate them. I find myself wondering if I have a criticism. Maybe or maybe not. They go directly for his point. Good but I might feel strong armed at moments. He is very fond of wrapping perhaps complicated decisions or views up into establishing political cultural power. I can understand keeping a sharp eye on that but I do believe other factors exist as well. Josiah wants to centralize power around him yes. He also wants to have strength to protect the country from the empires. He believes clarified worship and morals could do this. It can be noticed that this was both success and failure. Perhaps excess in his reforms did not help. There could be some good in there as well.
User avatar
Moksha
God
Posts: 7848
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:13 am
Location: Koloburbia

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by Moksha »

Dan is currently in Pennsylvania as part of his book tour.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
Analytics
Bishop
Posts: 503
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:11 pm

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by Analytics »

Dan’s success in publishing to a broad audience makes me think of the other Dan’s attempt to do so.

To get a major publishing deal in the non-fiction space, you need to write a book proposal first--book proposals contain an overview of the book, why there is a commercial demand for it, why you are the person to write it, an outline of the book, and one or two sample chapters.

You then pitch this proposal to agents and get one of them to represent you. Once the agent is on board, they’ll help you refine the proposal and will then shop it to publishers. When the publisher gives you the thumbs up, you’ll sign a contract promising to get it done by a certain date, and you’ll get an advance. You’ll get some more money when you finish writing it, more when it goes to press, and then if it makes it to a second printing, you’ll get residuals for as long as it continues to sell.

One of the huge reasons Dan McClellan had the inside track on this is because of the huge social media following he has. If somebody has hundreds of thousands of followers, of course agents and publishing companies are going to pay attention when you say you want to write a book.

I recall that the other Dan said he and Bill Hamblin started to write a rebuttal to Christopher Hitchens’s best seller, but that it never got finished. Do we know, specifically, how far they got? Did they write a proposal and shop it to agents? Did an agent pick it up, but wasn’t successful at selling it to a publisher? Or did they never get the proposal finished? Or did they set out to write the whole thing without first getting an agent and a book deal?
User avatar
Doctor Steuss
God
Posts: 2154
Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by Doctor Steuss »

Perhaps he hasn’t said anything about McClellan’s new book yet because he hasn’t found someone else’s words sufficiently in line with his views as to be worthy of plagiarizing.
drumdude
God
Posts: 7176
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:29 am

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by drumdude »

Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu May 22, 2025 7:30 pm
Perhaps he hasn’t said anything about McClellan’s new book yet because he hasn’t found someone else’s words sufficiently in line with his views as to be worthy of plagiarizing.
:lol:

He’s very good at writing very bland boring stories about church history in England. I’ve been sleeping like a baby using his most recent blog travel entries.
MG 2.0
God
Posts: 5424
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:45 pm

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by MG 2.0 »

I'm enjoying the book so far. I've had to sharpen my pencil because of constant underlining. :)

Thus far, I see it as a net positive for faith.

Hoping that others are enjoying it also.

Regards,
MG
I Have Questions
God
Posts: 1892
Joined: Tue May 23, 2023 9:09 am

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by I Have Questions »

MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 2:27 am
I'm enjoying the book so far. I've had to sharpen my pencil because of constant underlining. :)

Thus far, I see it as a net positive for faith.

Hoping that others are enjoying it also.

Regards,
MG
What are some of the things you’ve underlined, and why did you find them important? (I’m gonna need page numbers)
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
MG 2.0
God
Posts: 5424
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:45 pm

Re: Dan McClellan's Book Debuts At Number 7 On The New York Times Best Seller List

Post by MG 2.0 »

I Have Questions wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 12:59 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 2:27 am
I'm enjoying the book so far. I've had to sharpen my pencil because of constant underlining. :)

Thus far, I see it as a net positive for faith.

Hoping that others are enjoying it also.

Regards,
MG
What are some of the things you’ve underlined, and why did you find them important? (I’m gonna need page numbers)
If you read the book, I would be happy to share back and forth some of the underlined stuff.

But it's not a one way street. Sorry.

Do you have the book? Are you reading it?

Regards,
MG
Post Reply