SeN: "Hope for immortality" is a Useful Salve for Childhood "rape and strangulation."

[Doctor Scratch]

It’s odd that Dr. P believes it’s the responsibility of various of us to nanny this board, when his own blog board has two highly aggressive nanny-cops on duty at all hours. Double standard much?

He's more than welcome to register an account here. I've pointed out elsewhere that he seems "sluggish" lately. If he's still got what it takes, then let him join in on our discussions.

[Moksha]

And so the Mopologists hold a monopoly on that particular brand of justice?

Try to imagine Kiwi and Louie being assigned to be Hitler's daily pineapple attendants in the Spirit Paradise/Spirit Prison Duality and forming a deep and lasting bond over that experience. Makes you wonder if this could be included in Shulem's new thread.

[Shulem]

And so the Mopologists hold a monopoly on that particular brand of justice?

Try to imagine Kiwi and Louie being assigned to be Hitler's daily pineapple attendants in the Spirit Paradise/Spirit Prison Duality and forming a deep and lasting bond over that experience. Makes you wonder if this could be included in Shulem's new thread.

I echo Doctor Scratch in making an invitation for Peterson and his gangsters to come here (to the sty) and discuss whatever they like, more especially: Heavenly Father has an ANUS?

With that said, you can be sure that Dr. Shades would not be happy about that. He's not thrilled with the prospect of a discussion regarding the resurrected anus. Perhaps Peterson will tell us if Heavenly Father has an anus and whether or not it stinks. Let's discuss this in detail down in the Telestial Forum. Those who are judged worthy to go to the celestial kingdom need to be prepared and ready to deal with the prospect of having an eternal anus. Isn't that right, Dan?

[Dr Exiled]

It’s odd that Dr. P believes it’s the responsibility of various of us to nanny this board, when his own blog board has two highly aggressive nanny-cops on duty at all hours. Double standard much?

This is a dumb argument from Dr. P. No one here is required to defend him on his views about the Mormon myth and its implications for the afterlife. He is just guessing and if the guesses show how lustful he is for revenge, then he should own it. How does anyone know what he is thinking anyway unless he says it himself or explains it under questioning? He should come over here to defend in person as Dr. Scratch invited him to do.

[Analytics]

Per LDS teachings, Bradford is most likely in the CK right now, and he's an exalted being, wielding dominion over his own planet/universe. Maybe he's basking in the glory of the stratified society akin to the one depicted in Added Upon. Now, how does this constitute justice in Dr. Peterson's eyes?

In the generalized case, what a profound question. One man’s idea of justice may actually be 180 degrees from pure objective justice that weighs all relevant factors. Imagine, waiting your whole life for that sweet revenge at the bar of God, only to find out that “it” was your fault all along, and that the justice meted out is you having to apologize for the countless ways your self-unaware mortal offended others. Ouch.

Excellent point.

I can think of three ways to think about the human impulse for Justice.

1- Wanting justice causes you to want immortality so that your hunger to see justice can be satisfied

2- Justice is an intrinsic law of the universe—because there must be justice, there must be an atonement or we are all damned

3- The impulse for justice is part of the natural man and should be put off. We should replace our impulses for justice with forgiveness, mercy, empathy, love, service. Instead of lusting for Hitler to face justice, we should try and atone for it by making the world a better place.

[Philo Sofee]

My sense is, and I am not being all that sarcastic, is that justice is for the "others" (shades of the television series "Lost" ) but the Mopes imagine they will be the recipients of the Divine Mercy, there is no point in giving them Justice, the Mercy is for them, since they are doing the Lord's work, but only they.........to all others, you need to begin to quake and tremble before the Lord.

[Shulem]

3- The impulse for justice is part of the natural man and should be put off. We should replace our impulses for justice with forgiveness, mercy, empathy, love, service. Instead of lusting for Hitler to face justice, we should try and atone for it by making the world a better place.

Exactly, that's how I see it. Here is one of my teachings:

We are all playing a character in this movie called life and when we die, we leave our mask (ego) behind and the essence of who we are moves on. We play characters just like an actor in a movie, but when the movie is over the actor goes home just like when the “acting on planet Earth” is over. Home being the Cosmic Mind with all its compartments. The One Cosmic Mind. When we once again connect with this Mind, we sense oneness and pure love. We are not being judged for the actions of the characters we play out. They are important characters – both ‘good and bad’. Without the ‘bad’ we wouldn’t know what ‘good’ is.

And here is a testimony from someone who experienced a near death experience:

I had an overwhelming feeling of everyone that has ever existed was focusing all of their love at me all at once. There is no start or ending and there is no time in between. I can be anywhere or everywhere all at once. There is no hate or judgement. There is no pain. Everyone we ever knew here on earth is there. We are all equal there. There is no time there. I was fully conscious. Everything seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning. I was everywhere and nowhere during the experience. Time is not linear there. Everyone is there all the time. There is no time there so people are never really gone. There was unity all at once. I could be anywhere, anytime, in any space, in any form or mind. The communication there is not in words but in energy. I was not just myself but I was everyone.

[mentalgymnast]

...God knows us so well he places obstacles and puts us through ringers for our own benefit. If we agreed to all of it before the world was, then it was only so because God chose every circumstance and every eventful occurrence for each of us.

Cause and effect. Micro or macro?

Apparently while spirit intelligence Hitler and Hussein joined the chanting crowds amongst the noble and great ones, they had a spark of devilish intent. God allowed them to march with the throngs because he needed some evil ones else no one would be able to embrace the good, or some such thing.

Don’t we all have that spark of devilish intent? Or godly characteristics? If God has knowledge at the macro level does that entail control at the micro level of individuals doing bad...or good...things? If God is in and through all things cannot He know what evils are being perpetuated before they happen at the micro level of human choice?

May I suggest that we leave things in God’s hands rather than trying to control Him by telling him how to run the universe?

Regards,
MG

[Philo Sofee]

Mentalgymnast
May I suggest that we leave things in God’s hands rather than trying to control Him by telling him how to run the universe?

So long as his own self proclaimed, self important followers, including Utah Prophets and Apostles, missionaries, and internet Mormons provide the rest of us with that courtesy, I am all for it!

[mentalgymnast]

Mentalgymnast
May I suggest that we leave things in God’s hands rather than trying to control Him by telling him how to run the universe?

So long as his own self proclaimed, self important followers, including Utah Prophets and Apostles, missionaries, and internet Mormons provide the rest of us with that courtesy, I am all for it!

You are free to run your universe any way you like. No one is stopping you.

Now, let’s let God run his.

Regards,
MG