“Peter Pan” is Unmasked as Mike Parker

[Dr Moore]

Here's a fun one.

https://archive.bookofmormoncentral.org ... 2_1-62.pdf

Did Spencer know? Or did Mike just laugh about being thanked twice? This was last June.

Kraus included that identical paragraph at the end of TWO of his articles about Neville, both originally published by the Interpreter.

It's starting to look like they all were in on the gag for some times... that, or Parker was busy alt+tabbing multiple email accounts, handing out "peer review" while unsuspecting authors like Kraus imagined they were interacting with separate individuals. So weird.

[Marcus]

Yes, I got the impression it was a guest blog piece at Rappleye's blog authored by Smoot, based on DCP's comment, but I'm not positive on that.

Could be. I clicked the link and ended up in spam hell.

Sorry, i did too. I should have included a warning.

[Dr Moore]

Could be. I clicked the link and ended up in spam hell.

Sorry, i did too. I should have included a warning.

My gosh. He hasn't fixed his bio yet? Or is that how he monetizes gullible Mormon readers of BOMC?

[Dr Moore]

Another fun observation: Smoot, as Captain Hook, couldn't resist but quote himself, a few short days/weeks after his review of Neville's Annotated Edition dropped.

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... oroni.html

This is a popular argument used by advocates for the Heartland hoax that Stephen Smoot has completely refuted.

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... drops.html

Your insults, duplicity, and insincerity will not refute the significant criticisms of the preposterous Heartland hoax (like this recent review by Stephen Smoot), no matter how often you frantically protest and defame those who disagree with you.

[Marcus]

I'd have to check the dates, but it seems Smoot's blog entry at the studio et quoque fide blog is taken off line, as Scratch's link doesn't work. Is that when his plonialmonimormon blog starts up?

It was live at least through of 5/7/2021. The post was dated May 9, 2019 and first captured June 6, 2019.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190606191 ... raphy.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20210507190 ... raphy.html

From the archive

The official position of the Church is “that the events the Book of Mormon describes took place in the ancient Americas.” As I pointed out in my previous post, both the Mesoamerican model and the Heartland model are equally in alignment with this official position. Neither one can rightly be called “apostate.”

Furthermore, I think it is fair to say that calling an opposing point of view “apostate” represents the promotion your own theory in manner that implies—or, arguably, outright claims—either prophetic or Church condemnation of those with whom you disagree. As such, while it may not explicitly violate the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles’ request that we not advocate for theories in “a manner that would imply either prophetic or Church support,” I think it is clearly not in harmony with the spirit of that request, and their plea that, “All parties should strive to avoid contention on these matters.”

http://www.studioetquoquefide.com/2019/ ... raphy.html

Clearly, that bit of clear thinking was shot down by mopologists. How can you get revenge if you are so reasonable?

Seriously, though, what went wrong?

[Kishkumen]

So, basically, Mopologists have a lot of disdain for their own LDS readers.

[Philo Sofee]

Another fun observation: Smoot, as Captain Hook, couldn't resist but quote himself, a few short days/weeks after his review of Neville's Annotated Edition dropped.

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... oroni.html

This is a popular argument used by advocates for the Heartland hoax that Stephen Smoot has completely refuted.

https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/2019 ... drops.html

Your insults, duplicity, and insincerity will not refute the significant criticisms of the preposterous Heartland hoax (like this recent review by Stephen Smoot), no matter how often you frantically protest and defame those who disagree with you.

too rich! This is just too much!!!

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Watching Dr. Scratch box with the Mopologists was like attending a master class in psychological warfare.

Dr. Scratch would drop a little nugget of information (like Stephen Smoot being involved) and the Mopologists would go crazy mocking him, high fiving and congratulating each other about how they had finally outfoxed Dr. Scratch.

Dr. Scratch waited until the Mopologists were at the height of their self-congratulatory ecstasy before delivering the final knockout. It was like I was watching Muhammed Ali finally knock out his opponent after toying with him for 8 rounds.

The whole thing was just brilliant. Well played Dr. Scratch. Well played.

[drumdude]

Stephen Smoot
July 27, 2018 at 3:41 pm | Reply
Jonathan,

You have abundantly proven that you are not somebody who can have a rational argument in good faith with an “M2C intellectual.” You have, repeatedly, demonized and belittled and cast aspersion on anybody who doesn’t accept your dogmatic interpretation of early Mormon historical sources relevant to Book of Mormon geography. This isn’t just a matter of having differences of opinion. As your blog posts have more than demonstrated, you have a personal vendetta against the “citation cartel” (which is, in reality, peer reviewed academic scholarship, as opposed to your own brand of trashy Internet pseudo-scholarship) and anybody who is out of step with your narrow and uncompromising Heartland apologetics.

I suspect I know why you are so personally angry and upset at “M2C intellectuals.” It must be very frustrating that your pseudo-scholarship which you’ve invested so much time and energy into is not making mainstream inroads in Mormon studies. It must be frustrating to be a laughingstock at the Church History Department and amongst BYU faculty. It must be frustrating that the best you can do is publish semi-coherent ramblings on obscure personal blogs or with no-name presses. But just know that it isn’t anything personal: it’s because both your Mormon history and your Book of Mormon geography are nonsense and you’re a deeply unpleasant person to interact with..

I don’t know why you have chosen to become such a fanatic over this one issue, but I will say that it is genuinely sad that your testimony is so fragile that even the slightest contradiction of your pet theory causes your cognitive dissonance to flair up like lights on a Christmas tree.

I am content with what I wrote in my post and in the KnoWhy, and I’ll allow readers to decide for themselves which explanation they find more persuasive. I will not, however, waste further time or attention on your shenanigans. Like I said, since you refuse to engage people who disagree with you in good faith, and since you’re a close-minded fanatic, it would be utterly pointless for me to engage you any further.

I will just say this one thing: for all of your self-righteous preening about how you accept the apostles and the prophets, and how “M2C intellectuals” are subversive apostates, it is breathtakingly hypocritical for you to lambast the Church History Department and BYU faculty and Seminaries & Institutes faculty for not kowtowing to your theories, since all of them are ultimately hired by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve. It is astoundingly hypocritical for you to criticize the “Correlation Department” of the Church, which approves “M2C” artwork and videos and articles in Church publications, when, again, the First Presidency and the Twelve are a part of Correlation. It is monstrously hypocritical of you to accuse Saints of being “revisionist history” attempting to deceive people about Book of Mormon geography when Saints has been authorized, reviewed, and approved by the First Presidency and the Twelve.

So please, Jonathan, spare us all the self-righteous BS about how “M2C intellectuals” are trying to get people to disbelieve the prophets and apostles.

Because guess what: as long as you keep doing what you’re doing, you are, in fact, doing the exact same thing. As long as you keep screaming about “M2C intellectuals” ruining the Church, you’re actually telling people to disbelieve the modern prophets and apostles who keep hiring them to work for the Church and guide the Church’s membership in intellectual and historical matters.

“Physician, heal thyself!”

Remember this quote every time Daniel whinges again about heartlanders calling him “slander Dan.”

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Because guess what: as long as you keep doing what you’re doing, you are, in fact, doing the exact same thing. As long as you keep screaming about “M2C intellectuals” ruining the Church, you’re actually telling people to disbelieve the modern prophets and apostles who keep hiring them to work for the Church and guide the Church’s membership in intellectual and historical matters.

Remember this quote every time Daniel whinges again about heartlanders calling him “slander Dan.”

And there it is. The Church is saying one thing, but doing another. The Church doesn’t want Cumorah to be Cumorah because nothing is there. The Church needs Cumorah to be ever elusive, but also just in reach. It needs “intellectuals” to quibble away the words of prophets so that “modern prophets” can say the location of Cumorah is unknown.

The Mopologists are rotten to the core, they know it, and they just don’t give two craps.

- Doc