healing/recovery through venting?

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

Marg

Damn I thought you were a scientist just like I thought Jaoson was Lawyer


Boy I am so disappointed................

What will I ever do now

Marg

I still value your thoughts and insights....please do not stop sharing those here

[_marg]

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Ray:

You just don't get it, do you? I said I did not want to go into any details or discuss that here. Nor have I ever divulged any details of my marriage break up to anyone on MDB. What I said on MDB months ago was irrelevant to the current discussion, and it was not pertinent to go into that. Your bringing this up was purely an ad hominem to divert the thread and be nasty.

Ray, why so angry? It's not good for you. Don't let what I say bother you. You brought up your marriage in this thread..as if it qualified you to give advice on how to make relationships work. But after you insulted me, I had to say something.

I have avoided any contact with you until you came with this insulting diversion. Yes, go back and read this thread and you will see that you threw that first insult. So here we go again, another thread diverted because of your petty personal digs. Let me repeat, I have avoided you because I know what you're like and your expertise in diverting threads, and when you were on Quantumwave's NDE thread I ignored you, purposely. I think you just like attention. You will do anything to grab attention in a thread.

Ok Ray..show me where I insulted you first. Quote that one sentence that first angered you.

And by the way, thanks for not adding your 2 cents on Q.W.'s threads, it saved me a few posts.

[cacheman]

Some of Ray A.'s astute comments on another thread motivated me to devote a thread specifically to the question whether or not venting, particularly unstructured "venting" like what occurs at RFM, is an effective means of recovery/healing.

Could someone who thinks you can heal/recover from venting, please explain the alleged therapeutic dynamic?

I am interested to see if this same alleged therapeutic dynamic works with anti-Semites when they "vent" against Jews.

Thanks, -Wade

Wade,

I think we need to make sure we're talking about the same thing. Venting alone has no therapeutic value, but almost every form of counseling I'm aware of encourages expression of one's feelings, often in an unstructured way.

And the attempt to equate exmormons with anti-Semites is rather sad, Wade.

Anyway, here's something to chew on:

Venting of feelings was a commonly perceived therapeutic benefit of the
computer groups and refers to expression of emotions. Participants saw their groups as:
A space to vent and discuss difficult issues.
Provides an outlet for my feelings in what I perceive to be a safe & caring environment.
As stated by a person participating in a group dealing with suicide and depression:
The group forms a community in which it is possible to be honest, and to be understood.
Suicide and depression are experiences which frighten most folks. a.s.holiday
(alt.suicide.holiday) people recognize the desires, and do not fear them.
Several participants noted that there was a sense of comfort in expressing emotion this way. As
stated by one participant:
Sometimes it’s much easier talking to a machine than a person.
Venting was particularly important with regard to conflict. Participants noted that being able to
express anger and be honest about negative feelings towards others was helpful. In some
computer groups conflict was tolerated once a person was accepted as part of the group. A 36
year old woman stated:
Part of ANY group is a sense of insider-outsider. Some call it ‘cliques’. Those ‘inside’ can
practically say & do anything.
Another participant wrote:
...A way to learn self-preservation skills, and the chance to practice either mediation or
avoidance of conflict.
While distinct issues, conflict and the perception of anonymity were closely related. A man in a
group relating to alcoholism stated:
Anonymity allowed me to be much more confrontational than I would have face to face.

ONLINE SUPPORT GROUPS: EXTENDING COMMUNITIES OF CONCERN
Susan L. Eaglesham, Dissertation, Virginia Polytechnic and State University, 1996

So, apparently, there is some value in "venting" in online recovery groups. And to think, I thought it was just a place to hang out and spew vitriolic hate. ;-)

Cheers,

John

[_Ray A]

Ray, why so angry? It's not good for you. Don't let what I say bother you. You brought up your marriage in this thread..as if it qualified you to give advice on how to make relationships work. But after you insulted me, I had to say something.

You're not worth the time digging up in threads. Go play your attention-seeking game with someone else. Does your husband take prozac?

[_Ray A]

Beastie, I know you said you don't go to the Telestial forum very much. But if you'd like an example of what I'm talking about, please see the thread in the Telestial forum titled, "Laughing at the retarded". For your convenience:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... .php?t=205

[_Mercury]

Beastie, I know you said you don't go to the Telestial forum very much. But if you'd like an example of what I'm talking about, please see the thread in the Telestial forum titled, "Laughing at the retarded". For your convenience:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... .php?t=205

If we don't laugh at you, how else will your marginalized cult get any attention Ray?

[_Ray A]

Beastie, I know you said you don't go to the Telestial forum very much. But if you'd like an example of what I'm talking about, please see the thread in the Telestial forum titled, "Laughing at the retarded". For your convenience:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... .php?t=205

If we don't laugh at you, how else will your marginalized cult get any attention Ray?

I think you're the sort of person who would knife someone in the back. You're one sick idiot.

[_Mercury]

Beastie, I know you said you don't go to the Telestial forum very much. But if you'd like an example of what I'm talking about, please see the thread in the Telestial forum titled, "Laughing at the retarded". For your convenience:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... .php?t=205

If we don't laugh at you, how else will your marginalized cult get any attention Ray?

I think you're the sort of person who would knife someone in the back. You're one sick idiot.

Why do you say such a thing Ray?

[_Ray A]

Why do you say such a thing Ray?

Because of your obsessive hatred of Mormonism.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Some of Ray A.'s astute comments on another thread motivated me to devote a thread specifically to the question whether or not venting, particularly unstructured "venting" like what occurs at RFM, is an effective means of recovery/healing.

Could someone who thinks you can heal/recover from venting, please explain the alleged therapeutic dynamic?

I am interested to see if this same alleged therapeutic dynamic works with anti-Semites when they "vent" against Jews.

Thanks, -Wade

God damnit Wade, speaking of venting, will you please go get a girl and get some action? I am sure the membership of Shady Acres would spring for one of Salt Lakes finest... Or at least relieve yourself! The tension is written all over your posts!

So then, lemme see if I read this right... I, Poly G. Porter am like unto a anti-Semite?

Good f'ckin night you are crapping me, no?

I love the people who are trapped by the cult which I loathe. Is that simple enough for you?

My motto is carry a big stick and stir every pot. Keeps the stink level HIGH.

Has it been therapeutic to get in the ring, or litter box with the pious cats of the Fboard and ZLMB? Hell yes.

Hey on a personal note, on a different thread from you, I read that you are in your 50's? Hey, Sister Sherri Dew is in her 50's also... why not? She might be pretty hot in the sack.. from being celibate for her entire life... NOT.