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_harmony
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liz3564 wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:I don't know how this board could possibly meet the expectations for depravity that Juliann has built it up too (other than that masturbation thread, which was a fluke occurance). I'm sure people who read Juliann and come over here are disappointed there isn't a flyer about a combination orgy/goat roast in the "Get-Togethers" forum.


Ssshhh....that's suppose to be a secret! ;)


Am I still in charge of the pickles and dip? (I always forget what I'm supposed to bring to orgy/goat roasts. And if we hold it after Labor Day, can I still wear white shoes?)
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harmony wrote:Am I still in charge of the pickles and dip? (I always forget what I'm supposed to bring to orgy/goat roasts. And if we hold it after Labor Day, can I still wear white shoes?)


Yes, you're still in charge of the pickles and dip.

And shoes? Sure....You can wear any kind of shoes you want to. It's not like you'll be wearing shoes for very long at an orgy, anyway! ;)
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

harmony wrote:Am I still in charge of the pickles and dip? (I always forget what I'm supposed to bring to orgy/goat roasts. And if we hold it after Labor Day, can I still wear white shoes?)


--Not sure why you'd need to bring pickles to an orgy....but bring em on.

--White shoes are allowed after Labor Day, as long as they're thigh high and made of leather.
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harmony wrote:
I heard lots of stuff about the "Obsession" board on MADB before I finally sought this thing out. (And, it wasn't that hard to find: MADB is giving the Shades board some probably unwitting publicity.) Turns out that the boards here are both far more and much less atrocious than I'd been led to believe. Depending upon viewpoint considerations.


How so? How are the boards here far more atrocious? Or far less?


Perhaps "atrocious" wasn't the best choice of words. I think I'd reword with something like "provocative." I just meant that, were I LDS, some of the things I've read here would be very offensive to me. (Heck, some of the things I've read here are offensive to me even though I'm not LDS. And I'm really glad the mods don't see fit to chop-and-ban here, despite my occasional, personal discomfort.) I didn't hear of these more provocative posts on MADB (due to board rules on vulgarity, etc.). So, more provocative.

On the other hand, it seems that there's a good mix of viewpoints here. The fact that lots of folks are talking to each other about Mormonism with fairly minimal moderation just doesn't seem as provocative as it has been painted on MADB. So, less provocative.

Best.

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Sad but true. The MAD mods are never going to realize that the driving force of MAD are The Critics! The critics provide the energy to the board by sparking the debate with their questions and comments, and without critics and their hard questions the board will devolve into a Fellowship Hall.


Oh, I think they do realize that. It's just that they want the impossible - they want a setting in which critics only provide material which can be clearly and successfully rebutted by the apologists. They want the apologists to always appear to be the hands-down winners in these debates. The hard fact that this idyllic dream is not possible is what creates this no-win situation, in which they are driven to censor and ban critics while, at the same time, needing SOMEONE to fill that role.

Of course many of the believers seem to actually think the apologists do clearly come out on top - amazing, but apparently true, unless they're blowing smoke. Some of the believers are able to be convinced of this simply because they don't have adequate background knowledge on a given topic to judge the interaction between the apologists and critics in the first place. That ignorance, combined with the desire for apologists to be right, results in a distorted perception of the interaction. But I suspect that some of the apologists, who DO possess enough background information to know what's going on, are a bit discomforted by the lack of clear victories.

One of my old favorite posters who abandoned us for his real life (the nerve!), gadianton, once commented that LDS apologists, in general, were very bright people, and yet critics with average intelligence often whup them in these debates, because we, frankly, have the easier course. It takes an active and bright mind to come up with some of these tortuous theories they construct to support what would, in my opinion, appear to be quite insupportable to outsiders. A comparison would be a scientologist apologist who constructs theories to support the idea that life on earth originated with an alien race dropping frozen aliens in a volcano (at least I think that's their theology). It takes a bright, creative mind and lots of hard work to create some supporting theory that sounds plausible even to other scientologists who WANT to believe. All believers really want is some smart person to tell them it's not silly to believe what they already believe. Despite their insistence that all that matters is faith, they desperately want to believe they're not being silly and foolish and buying some theory that only a sucker or dummy would buy. So it would only take an average critic to come along and point out all the nonsense in these carefully constructed theories, and think how frustrating that would be to the scientologist apologist.

That's part of the reason MADdites, in general, are so sensitive to being "offended" by critics, even though they clearly engage in equally offensive behavior, and usually worse. They're frustrated by the desire for the impossible, and since they can't admit it's impossible due to the fact that they are trying to defend what is often extremely difficult to defend at best, they have to find another scapegoat. Aha, it's the ill mannered critics. (after all, we all know they're inspired by Satan even if some of them are too PC to say that out loud)

Since having ceased participating at MAD and hence having zero investment in any of their conversations, I am very amused and entertained by it all. I can't wait to see how it turns out. Will the mods realize their overzealousness may create a board inhabited by rude, sneering believers and a few extraordinarily careful and polite critics, and realize that may not result in a favorable impression after all? Will they realize that they may end up creating a board not even the most determined critics can tolerate? Or will they pursue this current course until they're left with a quasi-Sunday School, inhabited by a very small number of critics and a vast number of LDS cheerleaders, until the board becomes so uninteresting even the believers give up? Like I said elsewhere, it's like our own little soap opera. As the FARMer turns...
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beastie wrote:One of my old favorite posters who abandoned us for his real life (the nerve!), gadianton,


The nerve indeed! I do, however, feel his presence here from time to time--a familiar voice as of one speaking from the dust.

Good critics never die--they just fade away and get reincarnated.
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ABman - no way! I swear I would know gad if he were posting as someone else!!! Man, if he has even me fooled, he's goooood.
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beastie wrote:ABman - no way! I swear I would know gad if he were posting as someone else!!! Man, if he has even me fooled, he's goooood.


He speaks more softly, but he carries the same big stick.

And he still has his blog--somewhere. I think he was moving it to a different server last I checked.

Yep, here's the new one:
http://worldlyliving.wordpress.com/
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
harmony wrote:Am I still in charge of the pickles and dip? (I always forget what I'm supposed to bring to orgy/goat roasts. And if we hold it after Labor Day, can I still wear white shoes?)


--Not sure why you'd need to bring pickles to an orgy....but bring em on.

--White shoes are allowed after Labor Day, as long as they're thigh high and made of leather.


I'll bring the whip and the handcuffs...

Sorry...derailing again. LOL
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Post by _moksha »

Bond...James Bond wrote: Not sure why you'd need to bring pickles to an orgy....but bring em on.

The kosher variety make you want to shout, "Mazel Tov"!
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