DCP "Busts" Me

[_Jersey Girl]

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[_Bond...James Bond]

Jersey Girl,

ROTFLMAO.

[_Jersey Girl]

Orfeeus has something in his In Box...

Orfeeus, I'm afraid I made a real DB out of myself in the LD&D Forum. I'm in it up to my eyeballs. Help me out, okay?

Don't worry, LA, we've got your back. Make one more wordy post, avoid admitting your mistake at all costs and we'll lock that sucker quicker than you can say "I screwed up".

[_cksalmon]

For the life of me, here's what I just can't figure out: if DCP can certainly post here, should he choose to do so (and he can), but Mister Scratch can certainly not post on MADB (as he's been banned), why on earth would DCP post this interesting thread at MADB? Why not here?

I've seen many "board wars" and many online debates. The typical sequence runs like this: You have disallowed me from posting this on your [site], so I'll post it on mine. Let the reader make up his mind.

I think this is what Mister Scratch has done here: "I can't post on MADB, so I'll post here." So far, so good. But why engage in this petty drivel with full knowledge that one's adversary is unable to respond in one's chosen forum?

I have nothing against DCP, frankly. In the few personal interchanges I've had with him, he seems like a well-rounded, and, dare I say, not too unlikeable guy. But I wish he'd brought his personal grievance to a forum (this one) that allows for dialogical interchange.

To post in a forum where one's target cannot respond seems a bit self-serving.

Best.

CKS

[_Bond...James Bond]

To post in a forum where one's target cannot respond seems a bit self-serving.

And cowardly.

[_beastie]

I know from personal communication with the RFM mods a year or so ago (one of my posts was not allowed to go through because it named a certain apologist who cannot be named on RFM because he obsessively causes repeated disruption when it happens, and the mod communicated to me about it) that the mods have evidence that two MAD believers post fairly regularly at RFM under various pseudonyms. I won't name them on this thread, but will say it makes perfect sense for one of them to post an outrageously insulting post using scratch's name with the sole purpose of being able to use the outrageous incident to get scratch banned from FAIR.

Of course, this is just idle speculation, but DCP is always game for that, particularly when it smears someone else's reputation. (old ZLMBers may remember his heavy innuendos about how if WE knew what HE knew - about the critic/author whose name escapes me but used to teach in the church education system, hence, DCP knew all sorts of gossip about him - we would all be more suspicious of him. I called him a rumor mongerer or something similar and he was highly insulted.)

[_Jersey Girl]

cks

For the life of me, here's what I just can't figure out: if DCP can certainly post here, should he choose to do so (and he can), but Mister Scratch can certainly not post on MADB (as he's been banned), why on earth would DCP post this interesting thread at MADB? Why not here?

Why can't you figure it out? It's not that hard to connect the dots, ck.
Jersey Girl

[_cksalmon]

cks

For the life of me, here's what I just can't figure out: if DCP can certainly post here, should he choose to do so (and he can), but Mister Scratch can certainly not post on MADB (as he's been banned), why on earth would DCP post this interesting thread at MADB? Why not here?

Why can't you figure it out? It's not that hard to connect the dots, ck.
Jersey Girl

I dunno. I guess I'd like to see the dots as more ambiguous than all that. "You may say [Jersey Girl] that I'm a dreamer..." and all that.

Best.

CKS

[_harmony]

I know from personal communication with the RFM mods a year or so ago (one of my posts was not allowed to go through because it named a certain apologist who cannot be named on RFM because he obsessively causes repeated disruption when it happens, and the mod communicated to me about it) that the mods have evidence that two MAD believers post fairly regularly at RFM under various pseudonyms. I won't name them on this thread, but will say it makes perfect sense for one of them to post an outrageously insulting post using scratch's name with the sole purpose of being able to use the outrageous incident to get scratch banned from FAIR.

Of course, this is just idle speculation, but DCP is always game for that, particularly when it smears someone else's reputation. (old ZLMBers may remember his heavy innuendos about how if WE knew what HE knew - about the critic/author whose name escapes me but used to teach in the church education system, hence, DCP knew all sorts of gossip about him - we would all be more suspicious of him. I called him a rumor mongerer or something similar and he was highly insulted.)

Palmer.

[_Ray A]

Ray--- I *did* write that! I have never claimed that I did not write that specific post. I have no problem admitting to posts which I did actually write. The post I did not write was the one DCP attempted to smear me with.

Thanks for clarifying that, Scratch. I went back and read your OP and this is indeed the case. You also wrote:

Yes, ABman---well done! As I have said before, I *am* guilty of writing derogatory things about DCP. You can find a bit archived on Infymus's site where I referred to him and his pals as "a-holes," too. My point has been all along that I am just not guilty of the specific thing he has repeatedly accused me of having written, and which got me booted off of FAIR.

However, if you wrote derogatory things about DCP, and you really think he's an "a-hole", it's a bit at odds with this statement you wrote on this thread:

Yes, I agree. I think that Prof. P. is a smart, witty, eloquent, and basically decent guy....

So is he a "a-hole", or a decent guy?

You clarify your motive in the rest of the comment from above:

I think it is a pity that he is apparently incapable of seeing me as anything other than an "anti-Mormon liar." But, oh well. I do enjoy butting heads with him, even if it is from a distance. : ) (My emphasis)

But from your OP:

This isn't exactly true. Given that somebody is impersonating now, I think it makes the "earlier story" more likely, but I also think it is possible that DCP either flat out lied, or else made a mistake in his reading of the old RfM post. (My emphasis)

Your OP seems to indicate your motivation in continually attacking DCP

See, I always felt that this "apology" was disingenuous. He plainly (in my opinion) wanted me to be banned....And no, I have not forgotten how I was unfairly booted off of the ironically named FAIRboards thanks to DCP's smear campaign.... (My emphasis)

And:

Okay, DCP said there was a punchline.... But what was it? Am I the only one who missed it? I can quote lines, too: "Revenge is a dish that is best served cold." (My emphasis)

What this looks like, to me, Scratch, is that the FAIR mods, even if they were wrong about the "douche-bag" comment, correctly read your intentions, and your true (mixed?) feelings about DCP and aspects of Mormon teachings/doctrine. I think they have said that it's quite okay to be critical, as cksalmon, T-Bone (?) and many others are, without being derogatory.
So let me remind you again:

I *am* guilty of writing derogatory things about DCP. You can find a bit archived on Infymus's site where I referred to him and his pals as "a-holes," too.

I don't know why you're seeking revenge, Scratch. It was your overall attitude which got you banned, not the specific comments perhaps wrongly attributed. This is like throwing stones at someone's house, and when they call the police and have a restraining order placed on you, you cry foul. Cop it sweet, or continue with your campaign of revenge.. The former will make you a big man with a heart, the latter will leave people viewing you as a little man holding big grudges and blaming everyone else but yourself.

And for the record, I have no doubt DCP was genuine in his apology when he thought he was mistaken about your identity. If you really wanted to post on FAIR/MAD so badly, which is the source of your current obsession campaign, then you poured gas over your body and ignited it. I don't understand the obsession anyway. With all the threads you've done criticising FAIR/MAD, DCP and Juliann, I don't see how you can claim to have been "hard done by". In the minds of the FAIR/MAD mods, your latter actions will leave them feeling fully justified in what they did. What would you have done on FAIR anyway? Pacify the alligator, hoping it will eat you last? Mince words and blow sunshine up people's asses, when you really think they are "a-holes"?