Are 8-yr olds able to decide to be baptized?

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Re: Are 8-yr olds able to decide to be baptized?

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why me wrote:
MrStakhanovite wrote:
How does one go about not teaching unverified beliefs to children? I grew up hating baseball teams like the Braves/Yankees/Red Sox because my Dad did. I spent my entire highschool life as a young Republican because my Mom and Dad always listened to talk radio when we were in the car. Dad didn't sit me down and teach me these things, I learned them because I watched him and wanted to be like him.

How does an LDS parent hide their entire lifestyle from their child? Leave a 6 year old home alone whilst they go to church? Or just stop going to Church once they have children? I didn't shed the habits I learned from my parents because I stepped into the light of reason, but because I grew up and formed my own habits and beliefs. Being raised in a religious household doesn't condem a person to a lifetime of unreflective and mindnumbing existence.


So true. But the exlds critics can not see this. It is impossible for them to understand what you are saying. Parents are very much a part of the socialization process when they raise their children. Even if a parent is an atheist they impart values and cultural norms to their children. And most of what a human being is, comes from their childhood and how they were raised.

For critics, a parent needs to leave their ldsisms at the office or on the street and not bring them into the home. When a child witnesses eight year olds being baptised they understand that when they are eight, they will also be baptized. It becomes a right of passage like a barmitzah is for a jewish boy. Maybe Jews should leave that practice at the door and allow their son to make their own decision when they are eighteen.

When we reason in this way, we can see just how infantile the critics are about the LDS baptism.

Um... wow. I'm going to resist calling you an idiot and just pick this piece of trash apart.

First of all, I am ex-lds, and I'm willing to bet I understand the concept of parental modeling far better than you do.

Secondly, if you believe that "most of what a human being is, comes from their childhood and how they were raised" (a highly contestable idea, but let's go with it), one would think that making them go to church would much worse than letting them figure out what they really think for themselves.

And no, I don't think "a parent needs to leave their ldsisms at the office or on the street and not bring them into the home." I think they should get out completely. It a waste of a life, it's a load a crap, and it's not doing your kids any favors.

As for "how infantile the critics are about the LDS baptism," we're not the ones making kids do something they would normally never do if they were actually properly informed about it. That's self-centered LDS folks imposing their own selfish needs on their children. I mean, please... you believe in an imaginary spirit that is watching over you, and a big brother who let's you get away with everything since he died for your sins, the absolute absolution of responsibility, and you want to call critics "infantile?"

That's rich.

Your post is an example of why it is so difficult to avoid calling Mormons morons.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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