Study shows LDS Church participation increases risk to children from abusers

[I Have Questions]

I’m interested in how MG explains “agency” in the case of a clinical psychopath or narcissist. These people have a compromised sense of right and wrong. They don’t understand “choice” and “consequences” in the way most people understand those things. If a sexual abuser was abused as a child, and so have a compromised sense of right and wrong and behavioural expectations, where is the agency capacity for that individual and their victims?

The Church has no capacity, no process, no safety nets, to prevent or manage the situation where someone with a personality disorder is appointed to a position where they are guaranteed unfettered access to potential victims - well, other than the Kirton McConkie Cover-up hotline. Which is why the study shows that children are more at risk if they are involved with Mormonism.

Again, it is cause and effect. Biology also 'rules the day'. Some folks are victim/subject to their biology in a way that results in bad actions/behavior. That in turn impacts negatively the behaviors/actions of that person. Another feature of living in a natural world in which genetics and evolution take their course.

If “Biology rules the day”, then where’s the agency? If “genetics and evolution take their course” where’s the agency?

[I Have Questions]

In ALL things. Including withing the system of religions we call the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's a built in feature.

Regards,
MG

And there we have it. The abuse of children is a built in feature of Mormonism. Thanks MG, I could not have said it better myself.

Keeping your kids away from Mormonism decreases their risk of being abused. Fact.

[Marcus]

I’m interested in how MG explains “agency” in the case of a clinical psychopath or narcissist. These people have a compromised sense of right and wrong. They don’t understand “choice” and “consequences” in the way most people understand those things. If a sexual abuser was abused as a child, and so have a compromised sense of right and wrong and behavioural expectations, where is the agency capacity for that individual and their victims?

The Church has no capacity, no process, no safety nets, to prevent or manage the situation where someone with a personality disorder is appointed to a position where they are guaranteed unfettered access to potential victims - well, other than the Kirton McConkie Cover-up hotline. Which is why the study shows that children are more at risk if they are involved with Mormonism.

Mg's answers are nonsense, he is just attempting to sound lofty while saying absolutely nothing at all. We are talking about a specific issue here and what we've learned is that the LDS church has STILL not put even the most basic safeguards in place as standardized procedure across all of their congregations. It was with utter arrogance an LDS leader announced they were the gold standard of child safety when they were straggling decades behind common knowledge. Of course being as prepared as possible doesn't prevent everything, but it is our responsibility to do all within our power to minimize as much as humanly possible the risks. People have a responsibility to be as prepared and educated as possible, and not once has mentalgymnast talked about the practical efforts his religion is so woefully lax about. He can only wax on about 'agency,' but what he has not mentioned is the agency people have to walk away from a religion that is ill-prepared in and uneducated about how to care for children. Or in his case, he should be willing to use his agency to advocate for safer conditions, or at the very, very least, be willing to discuss them here and indicate he has some knowledge, at least, of how to humanly do his best.

Mormons who drone on and on about vague ideas without ever explaining them is why LDS children are at such risk. That's on his head, and on the heads of his leaders.

[I Have Questions]

It was with utter arrogance an LDS leader announced they were the gold standard of child safety when they were straggling decades behind common knowledge.

Astoundingly, at the point Church Leaders signed off on a statement congratulating themselves for a gold standard for child safety, they knew for a fact they were neck deep in an epidemic of cases of Church Leaders sexually abusing minors. At the point they declared their own gold standard, they were in fact covering up thousands of cases of instititional failure on child safety.

Church Leaders epitomise dishonesty.