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[_Dr Exiled]

That is untrue. Along with the other vile accusations which I won’t repeat. You are a liar. The darkness lies within you as you malign the CoJCoLDS and what it represents.

I would expect that when homeostasis is the norm around here it’s simply a result of almost everyone being on the same page in regards to their antagonism towards the CoJCoLDS or it’s members. No surprise there.

When I call you out for what you are and what you’re doing, you go ballistic. And of course you would call anyone that questions or makes waves in your pre-existing paradigm, intellectually dishonest. What other course of action do you have in order to protect your house of cards?

Regards,
MG

I don't know about others, but if the church would leave me alone and stop claiming the nonsense they do, forcing my intellectually lost family to try and reclaim me from reason and sanity, I would leave it alone. You come here to needle us or defend your nonsense church or whatever and get owned time and time again. There isn't any good evidence for the church's claims. The "modern revelation" consists of scheduling changes or announcements of real estate projects and sometimes blatant lies as when Pres. Nelson stupidly claimed to the poor africans that paying tithing would lift them out of poverty. All the while, the fearless leaders are hiding the money from the members, forcing them to lie to themselves that it somehow is ok or doesn't matter that the church is stockpiling $ billions on its way to a $ trillion of hidden money. So, pardon the hostility MG. You support a fraud plain and simple and sooner or later are responsible for your conduct in pushing this nonsense on the world.

[_mentalgymnast]

So, pardon the hostility MG. You support a fraud plain and simple and sooner or later are responsible for your conduct in pushing this nonsense on the world.

I think this may nail it as the position of many on this board who are antagonistic towards the CoJCoLDS.

Regards,
MG

[_mentalgymnast]

mentalgymnast,

Let me make a suggestion. If you have a friend or loved one that you completely trust, please have them read this thread and give their honest opinion about your behavior. If they have your best interest at heart they will undoubtedly tell you to stop posting.

As thread lengths continue...where I am a participant...there tends to be a gradual, if not often sudden, escalation from both sides towards final resolution. I admit, I start to become impatient and intolerant as to what I see as unreasonable positions being taken and stupid things being said. I’m sure that this is also true on the part of how others view me and my positional stances and defenses.

That’s to be expected. It’s human.

The thing is, I think there are folks here that are out for the ‘big win’ at any cost. I’ve seen that over and over again. There is a lot on the line when you’re taking a position that MAY be in opposition to God.

It’s a fight to the finish, right?

Regards,
MG

[_Themis]

I admit, I start to become impatient and intolerant as to what I see as unreasonable positions being taken and stupid things being said. I’m sure that this is also true on the part of how others view me and my positional stances and defenses.

The funny thing is when you did this to me in this thread I was just using what you said to show inconsistencies. Like admitting spiritual experiences are not free of error or bias yet taking positions of certainty from them.

[_mentalgymnast]

mentalgymnast,

Let me make a suggestion. If you have a friend or loved one that you completely trust, please have them read this thread and give their honest opinion about your behavior. If they have your best interest at heart they will undoubtedly tell you to stop posting.

I know my wife probably would. When I come in here and post intermittently I think she sees it as a waste of time. I’ve told her what I’m doing and she says that I’m wasting my time talking to ‘apostates’.

Like I said yesterday, it’s time to take another hiatus here pretty quick.

I guess I feel bad that there aren’t other folks that will jump into the fray with apostates and challenge their worldview. So I’m all you get.

Otherwise it’s just one big echo chamber of filth against the church and the Brethren. It’s a dark place, although IHAQ would disagree. No big surprise there.

Regards,
MG

[_Philo Sofee]

MG
There is a lot on the line when you’re taking a position that MAY be in opposition to God.

May? MAY?!? No, it's positively so there is no mere possible about it. The phony God you proclaim and wish to make the world feel guilty for rejecting is singularly most positively being targeted, bracketed, and refuted. We want reality, not your tissues of fantasy.

[_Philo Sofee]

MG
I guess I feel bad that there aren’t other folks that will jump into the fray with apostates and challenge their worldview. So I’m all you get.

No worries, we don't mind easy strolls through the park of phony religion and lack of evidence claims. Haven't you ever wondered if the Mormons had the light, how it is the "darkness" here ALWAYS overcomes them so they are terrified to come here and "test" their "knowledge" and "testimonies"? Even your church leaders cannot overcome the "darkness" here, which ought to demonstrate their entire lack of power, which they brag of possessing. I'll share the hint........ the "darkness" here is the bright light of truth against the darkness of the lies Mormonism has foisted on the world from its inception.

[_mentalgymnast]

mentalgymnast,

Let me make a suggestion. If you have a friend or loved one that you completely trust, please have them read this thread and give their honest opinion about your behavior. If they have your best interest at heart they will undoubtedly tell you to stop posting.

If I’m not mistaken, haven’t you made the claim of being a Bishop in the LDS Church? Might I suggest that YOU follow your own advice?

Regards,
MG

[_mentalgymnast]

MG
There is a lot on the line when you’re taking a position that MAY be in opposition to God.

May? MAY?!? No, it's positively so there is no mere possible about it. The phony God you proclaim and wish to make the world feel guilty for rejecting is singularly most positively being targeted, bracketed, and refuted. We want reality, not your tissues of fantasy.

Mosiah 2
36 And now, I say unto you, my brethren, that after ye have known and have been taught all these things, if ye should transgress and go contrary to that which has been spoken, that ye do withdraw yourselves from the Spirit of the Lord, that it may have no place in you to guide you in wisdom’s paths that ye may be blessed, prospered, and preserved—
37 I say unto you, that the man that doeth this, the same cometh out in open rebellion against God; therefore he listeth to obey the evil spirit, and becometh an enemy to all righteousness; therefore, the Lord has no place in him, for he dwelleth not in unholy temples.
38 Therefore if that man repenteth not, and remaineth and dieth an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which doth cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and doth fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever.
39 And now I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment.

Regards,
MG

[_Dr Moore]

I guess I feel bad that there aren’t other folks that will jump into the fray with apostates and challenge their worldview. So I’m all you get.

Otherwise it’s just one big echo chamber of filth against the church and the Brethren.

I disagree with your assessment on both points.

First, every person here has already had their worldview challenged, thank you very much. No special value in re-adjudicating the process by which all of us have had our worldviews shaken, and rebuilt. Blanket insults to the extent that this is an inherently biased place of one-sided bashers is a bit too reductionist, even for you, wouldn't you agree? The occasional point is valuable, but please don't kid yourself into believing that you are somehow offering the unique service of "challenging" anyone's world view on this forum.

Second, there is a big difference between an "echo chamber against the brethren" and an open forum for critical analysis of what the brethren say and do. What is your goal in insulting participants on a public forum dedicated, in part, to deconstructing the various teachings of self-proclaimed mouthpieces for God? If they speak the truth, it should withstand such scrutiny. If not, well then this forum does a huge service to the world.