Oh sweet mother! Okay, I finished what I was working on and now I'm all yours for like 5 seconds, okay? This is going to be an aside to you. Just for you. Only you. Feeling special yet?
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Well, you just say stuff.
This board is literally filled with people who are just saying stuff. I say stuff. You say stuff. We all say stuff. No really, it's in print and everything.
And when someone wants you to clarify you act mystified or offended that someone would do that.
I question why you seem to be challenging me as qualified to participate on this topic when what I actually did was pose questions, predicted how I think the thread would play out based on 15 years of experience, and recommended two posters as well qualified to engage the topic. Did you think I was recommending
myself?
Look. You're the one making assertions. It's not unusual for people to want you to back up the assertion you're making. You're the initiating hostilities, so please check yo' self befo' you wreck yo' self.
Buddy, stop making
personal remarks to and about me when you don't like what you read, then there wouldn't be any sub topic woven through this thread. Was asking questions initiating hostilities, antischock8? Have the predictions that I made about the thread become realized yet? If not, give it a little time and every swinging dick on this board that doesn't know jack about the topic will fill it right up with prophecy fulfilled and jettison to obscurity any valid or useful information such as that that Aristotle and EA have posted here.
If Kish should happen to show up on this thread, you've got yourselves a trifecta, and would you appreciate it or even be able to find it in the rubble of personal remarks and bantering on this thread? Can you tolerate for one second reading what you see as a negative remark by someone like me and just let it ride like I let ride all the negative remarks I read on this board regularly? Hell, I'd have to work day and night to match the post count of those who regularly make mocking, jeering, negative and low down disrespectful remarks about people and their beliefs on this board, Mormons and Mormonism of course, being a main theme.
Try a little delayed gratification once in a while, it won't kill you. I promise.
That said, I think you could draw some parallels between the evolution of Mormon theology along with its record keep with that of the early Christians. There was a whole lot of mysticism, factions, and various people making various claims. Hence the reason why the Gospels contradict themselves, and the need for a 'correlation committee' in Nicene.
Oh god. Okay, I think you could draw parallels between the development of Mormonism and Christianity as well, if it weren't for the fact that the arguments made against the historical Jesus often rely on conjecture without the application of common sense. Take a look at the questions that I posed to Aristotle and his answers. These are common sense questions with common sense answers that I don't see being asked in direct challenge to the assertions made to the OP itself. His answers lead out to other sub topics for study.
Do you want to learn or do you guys want someone to feed you crap like you think the Mormon church did? Either way is good with me, just don't put it up here followed by a ton of head nodding, mockery and personal remarks about someone like me who wades in here to make inquiry when you don't like what the crap I'm saying about what I see with my own eyes on this board daily and for years on end, including a total of 15 years online on boards like this one.
What's more likely? That Joseph Smith Jesus Christ as we know him today existed in that form in the narrative presented by early Christian theologians... Or it's all made up?
I don't know the answer to that, do you? I leave room for my ideas and position to change based on what I find when I feel like researching more, like following leads from people like Aristotle and Kish who know what they're talking about.
What proof other than what exists would you like in order to legitimize the claim that the Jesus you know certainly didn't exist?
V/R
Doc
I don't require rock solid proof.
What else do we need to discuss before you get me out of your gut, Cam? It's not me following you around calling you names, so get it out of your gut now, buddy. Because I'm not going anywhere. If you want to put a little target on my screen name, you go right ahead. I'll shoot back when and if I feel like it. Other than that, I don't really give a damn.