As the OP of this thread, I'd like to note that the above exposition of the extreme end of the sexism and bigotry encapsulated by the LDS church's policy of gender inequality was not solicited in any way.
This adult LDS person freely exhibited his sexism and his bigotry. His intellectual dishonesty is also on display, in the form of the use of multiple logical fallacies, along with mean-spirited aggressions against other posters. I don't put that burden on the LDS church however, as in my opinion this poster is also just a troll who posts here to disrupt.
It's still an inadvertent slam on the LDS church once you realize this is an adult LDS person, well into his retirement, who frequently lauds his commitment to the LDS lifestyle. Simultaneously he exhibits the aggressive and psychopathic traits of sadism and narcissism as he engages in this antisocial behavior.
Researchers have even suggested trolling manifests itself in the form of online sadism, and trolls use the Internet as their virtual “playground” to derive enjoyment at the expense of other users'. In sum, this combination of psychopathy and sadism paints the Internet troll as an individual who is callous, lacks empathy, and enjoys causing harm to others. https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2019.0652
As the OP of this thread, I'd like to note that the above exposition of the extreme end of the sexism and bigotry encapsulated by the LDS church's policy of gender inequality was not solicited in any way.
This adult LDS person freely exhibited his sexism and his bigotry. His intellectual dishonesty is also on display, in the form of the use of multiple logical fallacies, along with mean-spirited aggressions against other posters. I don't put that burden on the LDS church however, as in my opinion this poster is also just a troll who posts here to disrupt.
It's still an inadvertent slam on the LDS church once you realize this is an adult LDS person, well into his retirement, who frequently lauds his commitment to the LDS lifestyle. Simultaneously he exhibits the aggressive and psychopathic traits of sadism and narcissism as he engages in this antisocial behavior.
Researchers have even suggested trolling manifests itself in the form of online sadism, and trolls use the Internet as their virtual “playground” to derive enjoyment at the expense of other users'. In sum, this combination of psychopathy and sadism paints the Internet troll as an individual who is callous, lacks empathy, and enjoys causing harm to others. https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2019.0652
Umm...I assume you are referring to me? What on God's green earth is going on in your head? Are you bonkers?
Elder Paul Newton has been called a pioneer and a guinea pig — appropriate for the first-called senior single male missionary since The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints recently expanded missionary opportunities for single men 40 and older.
Full-time missionary opportunities for senior single members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are now expanded, for both single men and single women ages 40 and older.
The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles have approved changes allowing single men 40 and older to now serve full-time missions and single women the same age to have increased opportunities.
For several decades, senior single sister missionaries have been able to serve in limited assignments, while senior single men previously were not called to serve full-time missions.
Effective Friday, Nov. 1, single men 40 and older may be called as full-time senior missionaries if they do not have dependent children living at home. They will be considered for a variety of assignments, including in area and mission offices, family history or other roles for which they have unique life or career experience, such as medical or legal responsibilities.
Similar to most single senior sister missionaries, single senior elders will be given an individual area of responsibility and will not serve in a companionship.
As do senior missionary couples, single senior missionaries can serve for six, 12, 18 or 23 months.
Types of missionary assignments available for senior single women ages 40 and older are being expanded, beyond current roles such as supporting local Church units, advising missions on medical matters, working in family history or serving in mission offices. Additional assignments now include responsibilities at visitors’ centers, historic sites, employment centers and other roles in area and mission offices.
Why is there a difference?
Yes, why. It's pretty clear there is some gender stereotyping going on. Also, it was my understanding single older women were still in companionships, but the single older men won't be? How will that work?
I may have described this years ago in another post on these boards, but it may be worth repeating. The religious tradition with which I most closely identify is Anglo-Catholicism. Yes, it's an oxymoron. It keeps on like that.
The expectation in this tradition is that a Christian priest, in presiding in the liturgy of the Eucharist, makes some wafers and wine into the real Body and Blood of God. Anglo-Catholicism is a pre-feminist tradition, so it has been a serious issue within this tradition, whether women could possibly be Christian priests. The tradition is legalistic enough to care about Apostolic Succession, for heaven's sake. There can be strong opinions. Nevertheless, Anglican churches have been ordaining women for decades, and many of those female priests are in the Anglo-Catholic tradition. So Anglo-Catholic women priests are a thing.
Are they a real thing? When I first noticed this question, when I was young, long ago, I took it as a question that could be settled empirically. The next Eucharist I attended, at which an ordained woman presided, I made a point of trying to notice whether anything seemed different.
Okay, her voice had a different timbre from the male priests. She had long hair, and no beard. Male priests had all different voices and hairstyles, however. Those categories didn't seem relevant. Nothing else was different. I concluded then that female priesthood was an empirical fact.
Nothing dramatic had happened in that particular Eucharist. But that was kind of the thing. Anglo-Catholics don't expect God to do tricks for us. The wafers are still just wafers, the wine is just wine. Outward and visible sign of an invisible Grace: the Sacrament is about meaning. You speak and hear, chew and sip. What did it mean? God looks at you when you answer. That time all I could say back to God was, "Yeah, it's the same." All the things that made me go back into my week after that service as usual with the sense that I was okay, and things in general were in bigger hands than mine, said that woman or man didn't matter.
I still have a lot of respect for spiritual leadership as a calling. I don't imagine that any human rules can really bind God, but I think the concept of priestly office is a worthwhile thing. I still consider it an empirical fact that women can hold the office every bit as well as men can. And while there are lots of people who don't agree with me on this, I am far from alone. There's a big community of people who take priesthood seriously and just as seriously believe that women can hold it just as well as men can. Our conception of priesthood may not be exactly the same as the Mormon one, but it's a serious conception of priesthood, and we probably outnumber Mormons.
* * * All the things that made me go back into my week after that service as usual with the sense that I was okay, and things in general were in bigger hands than mine, * * *
That is the need that weekly religious attendance provides.
"Only the atheist realizes how morally objectionable it is for survivors of catastrophe to believe themselves spared by a loving god, while this same God drowned infants in their cribs." Sam Harris
And there we have it. Mormon Male thinking in all its glory.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
And there we have it. Mormon Male thinking in all its glory.
I think, generally speaking, that is true. I have no problem with your 'enlightened view'. To each his and her own. But that doesn't make you the authority on all things male and female.
And there we have it. Mormon Male thinking in all its glory.
Yes. And consider the sentence that followed that nonsense:
Both men and women have their place. Men can't have babies and develop the bond/connection that mothers have with their offspring.
Men can't develop a bond and connection with their offspring? That is a direct insult to every father here. Worse, it gives considerable insight into the gymnast's mindset.
And there we have it. Mormon Male thinking in all its glory.
Yes. And consider the sentence that followed that nonsense:
Both men and women have their place. Men can't have babies and develop the bond/connection that mothers have with their offspring.
Men can't develop a bond and connection with their offspring? That is a direct insult to every father here. Worse, it gives considerable insight into the gymnast's mindset.
It’s very much a 1950’s male worldview. But it is also a confession that his wife has a closer relationship with their children than he does, and that he had a closer bond with his mother than with his father. He’s forced to agree with my take on that, because that is what he literally just said was the case.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
And there we have it. Mormon Male thinking in all its glory.
Yes. And consider the sentence that followed that nonsense:
Both men and women have their place. Men can't have babies and develop the bond/connection that mothers have with their offspring.
Men can't develop a bond and connection with their offspring? That is a direct insult to every father here. Worse, it gives considerable insight into the gymnast's mindset.
This is quite common in Mormonism. It seems to break the epistemology of the person. Males can't bond? Straight out of the 1950's.
