healing/recovery through venting?

[_Runtu]

Great, now I'm a conspiracy theorist. Wade, my problem is that I've seen you operate for several years, so yes, I'm wary of someone who employs this tactic.

Let's see, you talk about the destructive nature of venting, and you specifically mention RfM and anti-Semites. Then you turn around and say you never made an explicit comparison. Nice try.

Anyway, as I said, I've already mentioned that most exmormons I know, and most on RfM, do not hold any prejudices against Mormons. If they did, your idea about dehumanizing might make sense. It's not the people we have a problem with, Wade. It's the institution.

Those are all interesting points that may be useful to explore and may have some bearing down the road (once the foundation is laid for such discussions).

Do you have something pertinent to say about what I have actually said thus far in the thread? Or, is the extent of your contribution to try and nip in the bud an argumentational flower you would just as soon not see bloom IN THE FUTURE (in whatever form the bloom may take)?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I've already responded that the definition of bigotry does not apply to most people I know on RfM. What exactly am I nipping in the bud? I'm sorry I'm a little wary of your none-too-subtle approach. I know you too well not to be wary.

[_OUT OF MY MISERY]

Some of Ray A.'s astute comments on another thread motivated me to devote a thread specifically to the question whether or not venting, particularly unstructured "venting" like what occurs at RFM, is an effective means of recovery/healing.

Could someone who thinks you can heal/recover from venting, please explain the alleged therapeutic dynamic?

I am interested to see if this same alleged therapeutic dynamic works with anti-Semites when they "vent" against Jews.

Thanks, -Wade

God damnit Wade, speaking of venting, will you please go get a girl and get some action? I am sure the membership of Shady Acres would spring for one of Salt Lakes finest... Or at least relieve yourself! The tension is written all over your posts!

So then, lemme see if I read this right... I, Poly G. Porter am like unto a anti-Semite?

Good f'ckin night you are crapping me, no?

I love the people who are trapped by the cult which I loathe. Is that simple enough for you?

My motto is carry a big stick and stir every pot. Keeps the stink level HIGH.

Has it been therapeutic to get in the ring, or litter box with the pious cats of the Fboard and ZLMB? Hell yes.

Hey on a personal note, on a different thread from you, I read that you are in your 50's? Hey, Sister Sherri Dew is in her 50's also... why not? She might be pretty hot in the sack.. from being celibate for her entire life... NOT.

That is my goal as well to keep on stirring the pot until it boils over and no one can hide from the stink..

Once in a cult it is so hard to break free and let everyone know that the cult is always watching and could care less about you if you are not in the CULT....

I'm with you PP we will keepon stirring and venting and we will do it here...

[_Mrs Robbins]

Shades or Keene, a little control please? I'm not a prude but you've declared this forum to be free from this crap. Or is it only Porkhead and Dumb Ass that gets to use the bad words in this forum?

[_wenglund]

Great, now I'm a conspiracy theorist. Wade, my problem is that I've seen you operate for several years, so yes, I'm wary of someone who employs this tactic.

Let's see, you talk about the destructive nature of venting, and you specifically mention RfM and anti-Semites. Then you turn around and say you never made an explicit comparison. Nice try.

Anyway, as I said, I've already mentioned that most exmormons I know, and most on RfM, do not hold any prejudices against Mormons. If they did, your idea about dehumanizing might make sense. It's not the people we have a problem with, Wade. It's the institution.

Those are all interesting points that may be useful to explore and may have some bearing down the road (once the foundation is laid for such discussions).

Do you have something pertinent to say about what I have actually said thus far in the thread? Or, is the extent of your contribution to try and nip in the bud an argumentational flower you would just as soon not see bloom IN THE FUTURE (in whatever form the bloom may take)?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I've already responded that the definition of bigotry does not apply to most people I know on RfM. What exactly am I nipping in the bud? I'm sorry I'm a little wary of your none-too-subtle approach. I know you too well not to be wary.

Fine. Be wary. But please respond to what I actually have said on this thread, and not what you may suppose I may be leading up to. Again, by doing the former, you will (if you are correct) position yourself better to respond to what you suppose I am leading up to. In other words, list specific and GENERIC characteristics that distinguish between alleged therapeutic venting (like what you may think occurs at RFM) and corrosive venting (like what you may think occurs with anti-Semitism).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

Some of Ray A.'s astute comments on another thread motivated me to devote a thread specifically to the question whether or not venting, particularly unstructured "venting" like what occurs at RFM, is an effective means of recovery/healing.

Could someone who thinks you can heal/recover from venting, please explain the alleged therapeutic dynamic?

I am interested to see if this same alleged therapeutic dynamic works with anti-Semites when they "vent" against Jews.

Thanks, -Wade

God damnit Wade, speaking of venting, will you please go get a girl and get some action? I am sure the membership of Shady Acres would spring for one of Salt Lakes finest... Or at least relieve yourself! The tension is written all over your posts!

So then, lemme see if I read this right... I, Poly G. Porter am like unto a anti-Semite?

Good f'ckin night you are crapping me, no?

I love the people who are trapped by the cult which I loathe. Is that simple enough for you?

My motto is carry a big stick and stir every pot. Keeps the stink level HIGH.

Has it been therapeutic to get in the ring, or litter box with the pious cats of the Fboard and ZLMB? Hell yes.

Hey on a personal note, on a different thread from you, I read that you are in your 50's? Hey, Sister Sherri Dew is in her 50's also... why not? She might be pretty hot in the sack.. from being celibate for her entire life... NOT.

That is my goal as well to keep on stirring the pot until it boils over and no one can hide from the stink..

Once in a cult it is so hard to break free and let everyone know that the cult is always watching and could care less about you if you are not in the CULT....

I'm with you PP we will keepon stirring and venting and we will do it here...

Runtu,

Do you consider this kind of venting by PP and SB to be therapeutic or corrosive?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

Fine. Be wary. But please respond to what I actually have said on this thread, and not what you may suppose I may be leading up to. Again, by doing the former, you will (if you are correct) position yourself better to respond to what you suppose I am leading up to. In other words, list specific and GENERIC characteristics that distinguish between alleged therapeutic venting (like what you may think occurs at RFM) and corrosive venting (like what you may think occurs with anti-Semitism).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

That's the thing. Where is the "venting," corrosive or otherwise, that occurs with anti-Semitism? In what way are anti-Semites venting? And how is that even remotely similar to the expression of hurt that we see on RfM?

[_wenglund]

Fine. Be wary. But please respond to what I actually have said on this thread, and not what you may suppose I may be leading up to. Again, by doing the former, you will (if you are correct) position yourself better to respond to what you suppose I am leading up to. In other words, list specific and GENERIC characteristics that distinguish between alleged therapeutic venting (like what you may think occurs at RFM) and corrosive venting (like what you may think occurs with anti-Semitism).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

That's the thing. Where is the "venting," corrosive or otherwise, that occurs with anti-Semitism? In what way are anti-Semites venting? And how is that even remotely similar to the expression of hurt that we see on RfM?

Are you suggesting that anti-Semitic slurs are not a form of "venting"? Are you suggesting that anti-Semitism isn't born of hurt and feelings of victimization?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

Runtu,

Do you consider this kind of venting by PP and SB to be therapeutic or corrosive?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

What venting are they doing? What I see is that, unlike me, they're getting a little angry at your attempt to tar us as bigots. That's not venting, Wade.

[_wenglund]

Runtu,

Do you consider this kind of venting by PP and SB to be therapeutic or corrosive?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

What venting are they doing? What I see is that, unlike me, they're getting a little angry at your attempt to tar us as bigots. That's not venting, Wade.

Both PP and sB considered it as venting. Why don't you take their word for it?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[cacheman]

Runtu,

Do you consider this kind of venting by PP and SB to be therapeutic or corrosive?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

What venting are they doing? What I see is that, unlike me, they're getting a little angry at your attempt to tar us as bigots. That's not venting, Wade.

Both PP and sB considered it as venting. Why don't you take their word for it?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

They do? I would have thought they were attacking the veracity of the church. Does that involve venting?