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Bond...James Bond wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:Now, in her defense, my wife is a lovely women who joined the CHurch at 22 because she wanted a good strong religion to raise a family in.....
I wonder how many people feel this way.......they only join a religion because they think it'll help in family raising.
Well that was not the ONLY reason. She had a faith in Christ before hse joined, she believed the LDS teachings from the missionaries, felt they made more sense then her protestant background.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Well that was not the ONLY reason. She had a faith in Christ before hse joined, she believed the LDS teachings from the missionaries, felt they made more sense then her protestant background.
Not to mention she saw a big hunky Bourne guy hanging around ;)
But seriously what's with the persception that religion will help with family building? Faith in something is great, but what does belief in Jesus Christ have to do with raising good kids?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Bond...James Bond wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:Well that was not the ONLY reason. She had a faith in Christ before hse joined, she believed the LDS teachings from the missionaries, felt they made more sense then her protestant background.
Not to mention she saw a big hunky Bourne guy hanging around ;)
But seriously what's with the persception that religion will help with family building? Faith in something is great, but what does belief in Jesus Christ have to do with raising good kids?
Moral values, time with family emphasized in LDS Church, the idea of eternal marraige, she knew as LDS family that was tigh knit and liked that....to name a few things. Faith is Jesus may mean more obedient to Bible commmands to stay true to a spouse, etc.
Bond...James Bond wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:Well that was not the ONLY reason. She had a faith in Christ before hse joined, she believed the LDS teachings from the missionaries, felt they made more sense then her protestant background.
Not to mention she saw a big hunky Bourne guy hanging around ;)
But seriously what's with the persception that religion will help with family building? Faith in something is great, but what does belief in Jesus Christ have to do with raising good kids?
Attending church adds an additional social atmosphere for kids. There are activities, etc. that you know are going to be wholesome.
As far as your question, "What does belief in Jesus Christ have to do with raising good kids?"
Following Christ's example of selflessness and charity are certainly welcome characteristics in ALL of us.
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Re: Harmony
Gazelam wrote:How is it that your even allowed in the foyer of the temple, never mind all the way to the cafeteria?
Now what's set you off, Gaz?
Re: Harmony
harmony wrote:Gazelam wrote:How is it that your even allowed in the foyer of the temple, never mind all the way to the cafeteria?
Now what's set you off, Gaz?
Yeah...I saw that, too. I meant to post a "WTF?" and was distracted by some other material in the thread.
Gaz...what's with the personal vendetta against Harmony?
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Jason Bourne wrote:Ok
So I told my wife about the disusssion here on polygamy and the ideas presented that this doctrine of men possibly or even probably having plural wives in heaven impacts an LDS marriage in many negative ways-emotionally, intimatly, sexually and what did she think about it?
"I do not give it any thought really, I don't think about it much."
"So" says I, "you really never think about it?
"No not really. I am to busy trying to live now and you know I really just am not a deep thinker about this kind of thing."
"Do you think it will happen" I ask.
"I do not know for sure."
Well, wouldn't it bother you if I had 10, or 50 or 100's of other wives that I was making babies with to populate an earth" I say.
"well" she says, " I guess that in the eternaties maybe we will be able to accept and understand these things better."
"The women on the board said you would not talk to me, a man, openly about this" I said.
"No" she said, "I think I would. Let me think about this some more."
So there you have it. She also said it does not bother her in the least that men only have the priesthood and that she does not. I asked her what about her daughters who have to sit in the pew when starting at 12 the boys get more prominence in doing something that really matters in the church. She had not thought much about that either.
Now, in her defense, my wife is a lovely women who joined the CHurch at 22 because she wanted a good strong religion to raise a family in and a man that was religous as well. For her the practical side of the Church is what matters. And she will tell you joining is the best decision she ever made and it had brought her great happiness. But she does not delve into things much. This seems to be her nature.
Jason, it's funny when I read this thread and the ladies asked you to ask your wife I wondered if this would be her response. When I was a young woman bristling against certain injustices I would get so upset because my mother just "didn't think about it". It wasn't something she worried about, thought about, and it just didn't affect her. I couldn't understand this. Now that I'm older I understand that she's content and there's nothing wrong with this.
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Hi Jason,
Your wive's response is a perfect example of how women in the LDS church cope...
They do not think about it. Or at least try not to.
And many women manage by hoping that it will be something different in the next life. In other words, they don't let the reality of it sink it, or they make it something other than what it is.
This is exactly how we humans handle difficult things. We ignore them, dismiss them, rationalize them away, minimize their significance, etc. etc. etc.
Coping strategies.
I do think folks in general who do not care much about , or concern themselves with the deeper issues of life, doctrine, church, truth, history, science, etc. etc. etc., have an easier time believing ... believing anything, not just LDS teachings. I do not say this in a derogatory way at all... it is just an observation.
If all the church was, was a nice place to meet, get uplifted, support each other, serve the community, learn about the teachings of Jesus, etc. etc. etc. I would be right there... darn that there is just more to it! :-( WAY MORE!!!!!!
~dancer~
Your wive's response is a perfect example of how women in the LDS church cope...
They do not think about it. Or at least try not to.
And many women manage by hoping that it will be something different in the next life. In other words, they don't let the reality of it sink it, or they make it something other than what it is.
This is exactly how we humans handle difficult things. We ignore them, dismiss them, rationalize them away, minimize their significance, etc. etc. etc.
Coping strategies.
I do think folks in general who do not care much about , or concern themselves with the deeper issues of life, doctrine, church, truth, history, science, etc. etc. etc., have an easier time believing ... believing anything, not just LDS teachings. I do not say this in a derogatory way at all... it is just an observation.
If all the church was, was a nice place to meet, get uplifted, support each other, serve the community, learn about the teachings of Jesus, etc. etc. etc. I would be right there... darn that there is just more to it! :-( WAY MORE!!!!!!
~dancer~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
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truth dancer wrote:
I do think folks in general who do not care much about , or concern themselves with the deeper issues of life, doctrine, church, truth, history, science, etc. etc. etc., have an easier time believing ... believing anything, not just LDS teachings. I do not say this in a derogatory way at all... it is just an observation.
~dancer~
I see it somewhat differently. Because I think about things so much, question everything I really believe in nothing! I can't stay with one thought because I critique it to death. I think those that think less about things may be very content within their own belief system and therefore have no need to question. For instance my mother is pretty much a skeptic of everything outside of her personal philosophy. She has her beliefs and she's fine with those. I on the other hand question everything and have at one point or another believed in the possibility of different things, just because I can't glom onto one thing to believe in.