Mike Parker says Neville is trying to blackmail him

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Re: Mike Parker says Neville is trying to blackmail him

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Marcus wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:59 am
Unbelievable. Mike Parker has viciously attacked others for 4 solid years, but he can't handle 1 week of his behavior being brought to light.
It’s because their double think is baked into their identity. From SeN’s comments section:
Being members of the "only true and living church" could easily make us feel like the proverbial "Christian with 4 aces", but it seems that we generally are quite respectful of other religious beliefs. Who would have guessed that?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:07 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:59 am
Unbelievable. Mike Parker has viciously attacked others for 4 solid years, but he can't handle 1 week of his behavior being brought to light.
It’s because their double think is baked into their identity. From SeN’s comments section:
Being members of the "only true and living church" could easily make us feel like the proverbial "Christian with 4 aces", but it seems that we generally are quite respectful of other religious beliefs. Who would have guessed that?
:roll:
Even if, for the sake of argument, we accept that the "generally" description is accurate, it still give these "Christians" a lot of scope for disrespect and worse.

And who, in this case, seems to be getting the worse? Other members of the "only true and living church"!
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Re: Mike Parker says Neville is trying to blackmail him

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:07 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:59 am
Unbelievable. Mike Parker has viciously attacked others for 4 solid years, but he can't handle 1 week of his behavior being brought to light.
It’s because their double think is baked into their identity. From SeN’s comments section:
Being members of the "only true and living church" could easily make us feel like the proverbial "Christian with 4 aces", but it seems that we generally are quite respectful of other religious beliefs. Who would have guessed that?
:roll:
The “only”?? I thought they recently decided they no longer told other churches they weren’t valid. Anybody know? I can’t keep up with the ever-changing nature of the LDS ‘Eternally Unchanging Doctrine.’
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:30 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:07 pm
It’s because their double think is baked into their identity. From SeN’s comments section:

:roll:
The “only”?? I thought they recently decided they no longer told other churches they weren’t valid. Anybody know? I can’t keep up with the ever-changing nature of the LDS ‘Eternally Unchanging Doctrine.’
Well. If they’re not busy making enemies outside their church and then acting they’re the victims, you can always count on them to turn their paranoia inward:

Tangata wrote in the same comments section:
My hope is that there would be safety from the wolves within the fold. My fear is that that the are wolves already even among us.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:11 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:30 pm

The “only”?? I thought they recently decided they no longer told other churches they weren’t valid. Anybody know? I can’t keep up with the ever-changing nature of the LDS ‘Eternally Unchanging Doctrine.’
Well. If they’re not busy making enemies outside their church and then acting they’re the victims, you can always count on them to turn their paranoia inward:

Tangata wrote in the same comments section:
My hope is that there would be safety from the wolves within the fold. My fear is that that the are wolves already even among us.
With friends like these …

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Of course, each side thinks that the other is the lupine side.

Meanwhile the people with the authority to make the determination - one side , or other, or neither, or both - remain silent.
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It's unclear to me why Parker is interpreting Neville's comments as "blackmail." Neville said that he'd been invited onto other podcasts in order to discuss the "Nygren Incident." He told Parker that he would reconsider appearing on the podcasts if Parker agreed to take down NNL. How is that "blackmail," though? The classic case of blackmail is where somebody *demands* that you give them something--money, usually--or else they will hurt you in some way. In this scenario, though, Neville is not asking to be "given" anything: it's not like he's going to "profit" in any way, right? Meanwhile, I thought Parker was "innocent"? He gave his side of the story on Boylan's podcast. So if Neville is simply going on additional podcasts and repeating the same story that's already out there in the ether, then, again, I ask: how is that "blackmail"? Especially if Parker didn't do anything "wrong"?

Meanwhile, there is Parker's assertion that he's "spiritually exhausted." What's that supposed to mean? That the Holy Ghost has been telling him that he needs to keep smearing Neville, but, hey: it's really a lot of work!? At the end of the day, he can choose to carry on with his "holy war" with the Heartlanders, or he can take what is likelier the better/easier path and just admit that he made a mistake and delete the blog. When the classic-FARMS Mopologists got caught for "Metcalfe is Butthead," they had to recall all the issue of the journal in order to change the acrostic. Parker, it seems to me, needs to do something similar.
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Well, he’s not that exhausted. He continues to be pugnacious when a commenter suggests he apologize and move on:
DaveApril 21, 2023 at 8:11 PM

You really should just sincerely apologize for the deceptions and attacks. It would go a long way. The attacks in this article (calling Jonathan dishonest, a blackmailer and a back stabber, calling Heartland people racist etc) just make things worse. Apologize and try to be better - that's the best way you can help yourself and the church right now. I hope you'll consider it. I actually appreciate that you're trying to defend the church, but there's too much friendly fire. All the best.
Recovering quickly from his spiritual depletion Mike “Peter Pan” Parker picks up his musket and fires back:
PeterApril 21, 2023 at 8:32 PM

Dave: Please explain to me how Jonathan Nevilleʼs ultimatum to me was not blackmail, or at the very least an implied threat. Please also explain to me how Rian Nelsonʼs Khazarian conspiracy theories are not antisemitic.

Iʼll freely admit that I did not keep my cool in that email exchange, but Iʼm afraid youʼre seeking an apology from the wrong person.
Instead of prayerfully repenting, making amends, and doing better Mike “Peter Pan” Parker attempts to pick a fight with another Latter-day Saint - trying to suck in a well-meaning brother to the vortex of crazy crazy that is his life.

Cool. Once again we see the Mopologists will never sincerely apologize for anything, nor admit to wrongdoing.

Hey, Mike. Why ya showing up to other people’s place of employment, ya dingus?

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:35 pm
…Meanwhile, there is Parker's assertion that he's "spiritually exhausted." What's that supposed to mean?
The weight of a guilty conscience? He still hasn’t said anything about how going to someone’s place of work blew up in his face, but the embarrassment for being called out on that must be immense. I notice Peterson didn’t seem to have his back on that.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:51 pm
Well, he’s not that exhausted. He continues to be pugnacious when a commenter suggests he apologize and move on:
DaveApril 21, 2023 at 8:11 PM

You really should just sincerely apologize for the deceptions and attacks. It would go a long way. The attacks in this article (calling Jonathan dishonest, a blackmailer and a back stabber, calling Heartland people racist etc) just make things worse. Apologize and try to be better - that's the best way you can help yourself and the church right now. I hope you'll consider it. I actually appreciate that you're trying to defend the church, but there's too much friendly fire. All the best.
Recovering quickly from his spiritual depletion Mike “Peter Pan” Parker picks up his musket and fires back:
PeterApril 21, 2023 at 8:32 PM

Dave: Please explain to me how Jonathan Nevilleʼs ultimatum to me was not blackmail, or at the very least an implied threat. Please also explain to me how Rian Nelsonʼs Khazarian conspiracy theories are not antisemitic.

Iʼll freely admit that I did not keep my cool in that email exchange, but Iʼm afraid youʼre seeking an apology from the wrong person.
Instead of prayerfully repenting, making amends, and doing better Mike “Peter Pan” Parker attempts to pick a fight with another Latter-day Saint - trying to suck in a well-meaning brother to the vortex of crazy crazy that is his life.

Cool. Once again we see the Mopologists will never sincerely apologize for anything, nor admit to wrongdoing.

Hey, Mike. Why ya showing up to other people’s place of employment, ya dingus?

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Rian Nelson is not Jonathan Neville.

Perhaps Mike Parker should start a blog about Rian Nelson.
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Re: Mike Parker says Neville is trying to blackmail him

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:35 pm
It's unclear to me why Parker is interpreting Neville's comments as "blackmail."
It's another iteration of the bully/victim behavior so many do and what the cry/bully mopes love. "How dare you complain against what I just did and threaten to continue to respond. You're attacking me! You're demands for me to act civilly are blackmail!"
When the classic-FARMS Mopologists got caught for "Metcalfe is Butthead," they had to recall all the issue of the journal in order to change the acrostic. Parker, it seems to me, needs to do something similar.
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