Check this site out. The site claims to have over a million and a half reads. I was given this page/link as a prooftext for the Book of Abraham ,from a TBM friend, not being a funeral text. I pointed out in the comments that the line drawing on the right shows a erect penis. And explained why in regard Osiris, Isis, and Horus. She denied it, took offense to Osiris' Phallus, and edited and removed most my comments, while banning me.
My point is this site gets more attention than the interpreter, if they actually have that many reads.
PS. Don't tell Paul about this site, he have a stroke.
The material in this site seem to read more as distraction than any specifically clarifying information.
Author is very fond of the Book of Abraham and holds text is lost defense. I am puzzled by phallic picture it looks oddly like late 19th century Art Nouveau with visual tricks and odd combinations. But I do not know Egyptian art and archeology deeply enough to be sure it is not Egyptian.
I am pretty sure it is a line drawing from a tomb or temple wall. I am going off of memory here but I should be close. The vultures are symbols of protection and are protecting Osiris. After Osiris brother tricked him and killed him, he cut his body up into many pieces and spread them out through out the land. Isis, and her sister Maat (?) turned into birds and found all of the cut up pieces of Osiris except his penis, which a fish had eaten.
Through magic Isis and I think maybe Anubis crafted and restored his penis, in which Osiris and Isis (as a bird) had sex and conceived their son, Horus.
I am sick as a dog with the worst cold I have had in year. I almost wish I had covid in that it did not affect me this hard the few times I had it. So I am bored as heck sitting here watching my fantasy football season tank. So out of boredom I'll look and see if I can find the source of the "line drawing."
The material in this site seem to read more as distraction than any specifically clarifying information.
Author is very fond of the Book of Abraham and holds text is lost defense. I am puzzled by phallic picture it looks oddly like late 19th century Art Nouveau with visual tricks and odd combinations. But I do not know Egyptian art and archeology deeply enough to be sure it is not Egyptian.
I am pretty sure it is a line drawing from a tomb or temple wall. I am going off of memory here but I should be close. The vultures are symbols of protection and are protecting Osiris. After Osiris brother tricked him and killed him, he cut his body up into many pieces and spread them out through out the land. Isis, and her sister Maat (?) turned into birds and found all of the cut up pieces of Osiris except his penis, which a fish had eaten.
Through magic Isis and I think maybe Anubis crafted and restored his penis, in which Osiris and Isis (as a bird) had sex and conceived their son, Horus.
I am sick as a dog with the worst cold I have had in year. I almost wish I had covid in that it did not affect me this hard the few times I had it. So I am bored as heck sitting here watching my fantasy football season tank. So out of boredom I'll look and see if I can find the source of the "line drawing."
I’m sorry you’re not feeling well, Mark. I have actually been battling Covid. Sending prayers or, if you prefer, good vibes your way.
"Yo 148, 3-to-the-3-to-the-6-to-the-9. Representin' the ABQ. What up, biatch? Leave it at the tone!"
I am pretty sure it is a line drawing from a tomb or temple wall. I am going off of memory here but I should be close. The vultures are symbols of protection and are protecting Osiris. After Osiris brother tricked him and killed him, he cut his body up into many pieces and spread them out through out the land. Isis, and her sister Maat (?) turned into birds and found all of the cut up pieces of Osiris except his penis, which a fish had eaten.
Through magic Isis and I think maybe Anubis crafted and restored his penis, in which Osiris and Isis (as a bird) had sex and conceived their son, Horus.
I am sick as a dog with the worst cold I have had in year. I almost wish I had covid in that it did not affect me this hard the few times I had it. So I am bored as heck sitting here watching my fantasy football season tank. So out of boredom I'll look and see if I can find the source of the "line drawing."
I’m sorry you’re not feeling well, Mark. I have actually been battling Covid. Sending prayers or, if you prefer, good vibes your way.
Prayers are great. Are you getting hit hard? Prayers in return.
The material in this site seem to read more as distraction than any specifically clarifying information.
Author is very fond of the Book of Abraham and holds text is lost defense. I am puzzled by phallic picture it looks oddly like late 19th century Art Nouveau with visual tricks and odd combinations. But I do not know Egyptian art and archeology deeply enough to be sure it is not Egyptian.
I am pretty sure it is a line drawing from a tomb or temple wall. I am going off of memory here but I should be close. The vultures are symbols of protection and are protecting Osiris. After Osiris brother tricked him and killed him, he cut his body up into many pieces and spread them out through out the land. Isis, and her sister Maat (?) turned into birds and found all of the cut up pieces of Osiris except his penis, which a fish had eaten.
Through magic Isis and I think maybe Anubis crafted and restored his penis, in which Osiris and Isis (as a bird) had sex and conceived their son, Horus.
I am sick as a dog with the worst cold I have had in year. I almost wish I had covid in that it did not affect me this hard the few times I had it. So I am bored as heck sitting here watching my fantasy football season tank. So out of boredom I'll look and see if I can find the source of the "line drawing."
Hey Markk, thanks that is good clarification. watch out for those fish.
I am slowily recovering from the worst cold I have had in years. You have my sympathy for your condition, hope you feel better. I did a covid test it was negative so a nasty cold it is.
From what I have read line drawings are/were made of depictions for study. I guess they use hi res photos these days, but I assume line drawings are still used to fill in missing or damaged fabric? I suppose that the Joseph Smith facsimiles were line drawings of sorts, of imagination. Dr. Ritner said, if I remember correctly, that there might have been a penis on Facsimile 1, and that he believed the papyri fragments were depictions of a temple scene.
This is a temple or tomb depiction of Osiris having sex with Isis, as a falcon.
I am sick as a dog with the worst cold I have had in year. I almost wish I had covid in that it did not affect me this hard the few times I had it. So I am bored as heck sitting here watching my fantasy football season tank. So out of boredom I'll look and see if I can find the source of the "line drawing."
Markk,
It sounds like you need me to call the missionaries and have them come over to give you a blessing. The only question is whether you have enough faith to not be healed?
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
I am sick as a dog with the worst cold I have had in year. I almost wish I had covid in that it did not affect me this hard the few times I had it. So I am bored as heck sitting here watching my fantasy football season tank. So out of boredom I'll look and see if I can find the source of the "line drawing."
Markk,
It sounds like you need me to call the missionaries and have them come over to give you a blessing. The only question is whether you have enough faith to not be healed?
Nah, I got a neti pot. But thanks.
But, some Missionaries came by last Sunday after 9:00 PM with some youth singing Christmas Carols. I was in my PJ's watching the final of Yellowstone. I am always really friendly and good with these kids but for what ever reason I lost it on them, and told them "do you what time it is, and do you have any idea what the church teaches?" I told them to look at the Gospel Topic Essays and for what ever reason, I don't know why, I told them to look up Emily Partridge and her Temple lot testimony, and shut the door. Then I felt like a huge a-hole and went back out and told them my frustrations was not directed at them, but at the brethren sending you out not knowing the truths. This all happened in about two minutes. I have felt like a d--k all week.
It sounds like you need me to call the missionaries and have them come over to give you a blessing. The only question is whether you have enough faith to not be healed?
Nah, I got a neti pot. But thanks.
But, some Missionaries came by last Sunday after 9:00 PM with some youth singing Christmas Carols. I was in my PJ's watching the final of Yellowstone. I am always really friendly and good with these kids but for what ever reason I lost it on them, and told them "do you what time it is, and do you have any idea what the church teaches?" I told them to look at the Gospel Topic Essays and for what ever reason, I don't know why, I told them to look up Emily Partridge and her Temple lot testimony, and shut the door. Then I felt like a huge a-hole and went back out and told them my frustrations was not directed at them, but at the brethren sending you out not knowing the truths. This all happened in about two minutes. I have felt like a d--k all week.
That’s by design. The leaders get shielded from all criticism and consequences, and the kids get sent out to war on their own dime. It’s really disgusting.
Please don’t feel bad. Chances are you are one of a thousand small cracks in their testimony that will eventually add together to lead them out of the church and break the cycle. The leaks from the brethren’s meeting about abysmal retention rates are really promising. Just try to show these kids a little more love next time you meet.
I hope you're all feeling better soon, Markk and Jesse and huckelberry.
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But, some Missionaries came by last Sunday after 9:00 PM with some youth singing Christmas Carols. I was in my PJ's watching the final of Yellowstone. I am always really friendly and good with these kids but for what ever reason I lost it on them, and told them "do you what time it is, and do you have any idea what the church teaches?" I told them to look at the Gospel Topic Essays and for what ever reason, I don't know why, I told them to look up Emily Partridge and her Temple lot testimony, and shut the door. Then I felt like a huge a-hole and went back out and told them my frustrations was not directed at them, but at the brethren sending you out not knowing the truths. This all happened in about two minutes. I have felt like a d--k all week.
We all have our days. I haven't had the missionaries over since 2013, when we kicked them out of the apartment. They absolutely had it coming, but still.
Feel better.
BA, Classics, Brigham Young University
MA, American Religious History, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School
PhD Student, Church History, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School
