Dan McClellan On The Joe Rogan Show

[Philo Sofee]

Also mg:

The irony. a.k.a., a troll who throws 'poisonous darts' then asks people to not respond to his 'poisonous darts.'

Same old same old. Moving on...

Marcus, this time around I'm not going to play your game. In the past I have got sucked in. My bad. You know I'm not a troll and I know I'm not a troll. I've called you a troll in the past. I will not do so anymore. It just feeds the flame.

Take care. Hope to hear from you in particular as I participate now and then...in such a way that we can build on what the other is saying even while disagreeing...we don't have to be disagreeable.

Regards,
MG

If you have to say I am not a troll... you are a troll......

[Philo Sofee]

MG noted:

McClellan's currently researched data points have taken him in the direction of a non historical Book of Mormon. That's fine. Last time I checked one's views on this topic are not contingent and/or based as to whether or not a member can hold a temple recommend.

So long as one does not teach the a-historical views in and or during church or give lessons on it. THAT can get you in serious hot water with the higher ups. One can believwe anything. One cannot teach everything one believes, that is a no no and gets tongues clucking, and recommends with held.

[Philo Sofee]

Seems odd that a person could hold a temple recommend if they don’t believe the foundation story of the Restoration.

Yes. I don’t know if Dan McClellan is a temple recommend holder or not. That’s not my business. However, I don’t know how a member could honestly answer that Yes, they do have a testimony of the Restoration, but also disbelieve that the Book of Mormon is an ancient record that was written on gold plates. The two positions seem to me to be mutually exclusive.

That's how the leaders want you to believe all right....

[MG 2.0]

Marcus, this time around I'm not going to play your game. In the past I have got sucked in. My bad. You know I'm not a troll and I know I'm not a troll. I've called you a troll in the past. I will not do so anymore. It just feeds the flame.

Take care. Hope to hear from you in particular as I participate now and then...in such a way that we can build on what the other is saying even while disagreeing...we don't have to be disagreeable.

Regards,
MG

If you have to say I am not a troll... you are a troll......

In this instance I would disagree Philo. It's gone on so long and I've played defense over and over again to no avail. I'm simply telling Marcus that I'm not going to play that game anymore.

Grey Rock Method is probably the way to go. In the past I let myself feed into it and it only fanned the flame...some might say fed the troll. I know, it doesn't accomplish anything other than stirring things up.

I've learned my lesson. Thanks for stepping in Philo.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

MG noted:

McClellan's currently researched data points have taken him in the direction of a non historical Book of Mormon. That's fine. Last time I checked one's views on this topic are not contingent and/or based as to whether or not a member can hold a temple recommend.

So long as one does not teach the a-historical views in and or during church or give lessons on it. THAT can get you in serious hot water with the higher ups. One can believwe anything. One cannot teach everything one believes, that is a no no and gets tongues clucking, and recommends with held.

That is probably true. But I would imagine that Dan McClellan and others who take the view of a non historical Book of Mormon are self disciplined enough not to raise their hand and say, "Yeah, but!"

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

Also mg:

The irony. a.k.a., a troll who throws 'poisonous darts' then asks people to not respond to his 'poisonous darts.'

Same old same old. Moving on...

Marcus, this time around I'm not going to play your game. In the past I have got sucked in. My bad. You know I'm not a troll and I know I'm not a troll. I've called you a troll in the past. I will not do so anymore. It just feeds the flame.

Take care. Hope to hear from you in particular as I participate now and then...in such a way that we can build on what the other is saying even while disagreeing...we don't have to be disagreeable.

Regards,
MG

If you have to say I am not a troll... you are a troll......

Indeed.