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_Brackite
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Hi Jersey Girl,

You wrote:

Is at best, misleading. I don't know who all of the other posters are on that list but it implies that all on that list created "sock puppets" in order to circumvent their bannings, that they habitually create "sock puppets" and would do so again in order to post on FAIR/MAD.

I will state once again for the record.

My original screen name on FAIR was "widdley". I stopped posting as widdley in April 2005.

I re-registered on FAIR as Lady Sundancer, my well known screen name from ZLMB, in order to promote a Kerry Shirts DVD.

I don't recall ever using overlapping screen names.

widdley stopped posting in April 2005 and was just recently banned according to the post above.

Lady Sundancer stopped posting in early October 2006 and was banned November 5, 2006.

The statements from the moderators there make it appear as if I were posting under a different screen name and/or am in the habit of making up additional screen names in order to post on FAIR/MAD. That is simply not true.


Yes, I know. The head Moderator there Chaos (Dan G.) is a jerk. I am pretty sure he was big time behind the bannings of several People on November 5th over there.
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Anyway, I just found another place, which is on one of the MA&D Board Web Site pages, that has that Post of mine where I was reprimanded for Posting a link to a Thread on Kevin Graham's Message Board. Remember that Juliann over there just Posted a link to the Discussion thread here on Dr, Shades. Here is that Post of mine again with me getting reprimanded for Posting a link to a Thread on Kevin Graham's Message Board from one of the Moderators there:

Brackite Oct 16 2006, 09:06 PM

Here is the link to the Thread that Daniel is referring to:

Do not link to sites that have language and content we do not allow here. ~ mods

Edited to correct the link.


Here is the URL Adress to that Web Site Page: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/lofive ... 18889.html
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harmony wrote:
You weren't banned for simply being yourself, you were banned because you lied and broke a rule.


I lied? Holy smokes. I lied? How did I lie? Goodnightshirt, I'm flabbergasted. Because I registered a nickname by which I am known in many LDS places on the net, I lied? Good grief, that's a stretch. If that's against their rules, then yes... I broke their rules. My apologies. Please point out the rule that says a poster has to use the same nickname on all boards. I really want to see that one. (Someone had best take David to task; he's using different nicknames for different boards, as do kevinchill, Kevin Graham, Roger Morrison, and the illustrious Daniel C Peterson, just to name a few).


Any communication with the intent to deceive is a lie. you registered under a different name so they would be deceived about your identity. You lied to them, and you lied to me about doing it, and you also broke a rule. How on earth can you get upset for being kicked off of their site for repeatedly breaking rules?
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Any communication with the intent to deceive is a lie. you registered under a different name so they would be deceived about your identity. You lied to them, and you lied to me about doing it, and you also broke a rule. How on earth can you get upset for being kicked off of their site for repeatedly breaking rules?


Mak---Please explain to me how she lied to you, or anyone else about what happened. It seems to me that she went into great detail about what happened. What am I missing?
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maklelan wrote:
harmony wrote:
You weren't banned for simply being yourself, you were banned because you lied and broke a rule.


I lied? Holy smokes. I lied? How did I lie? Goodnightshirt, I'm flabbergasted. Because I registered a nickname by which I am known in many LDS places on the net, I lied? Good grief, that's a stretch. If that's against their rules, then yes... I broke their rules. My apologies. Please point out the rule that says a poster has to use the same nickname on all boards. I really want to see that one. (Someone had best take David to task; he's using different nicknames for different boards, as do kevinchill, Kevin Graham, Roger Morrison, and the illustrious Daniel C Peterson, just to name a few).


Any communication with the intent to deceive is a lie. you registered under a different name so they would be deceived about your identity. You lied to them, and you lied to me about doing it, and you also broke a rule. How on earth can you get upset for being kicked off of their site for repeatedly breaking rules?


Then EE lied. So did DCP (multiple times). So did Plutarch (multiple times). Heckafire, in another, more important capacity, so did Juliann! I think I'm in good company. I sure hope someone's bringing the lemonade, when we all get to hell. I've got the lawn chairs.

And I'm in good company about the rulebreaking too. Seems to me like Washington and Jefferson broke the rules. So did Ghandi. So did Joseph Smith. Stupid rules should be broken. You're the one who is a supporter of the elitist, arbitrary, power-hungry status quo. You're the one who supports unrighteous dominion, closed minds, and stupid rules. I'll proudly wear my badge that says "Banned from MAD", since getting kicked off a site like that is something we should all be doing.
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I'll proudly wear my badge that says "Banned from MAD", since getting kicked off a site like that is something we should all be doing.


Hmmm....maybe we should all get "Banned from MAD" T-shirts! LOL
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harmony wrote:And I'm in good company about the rulebreaking too. Seems to me like Washington and Jefferson broke the rules. So did Ghandi. So did Joseph Smith. Stupid rules should be broken. You're the one who is a supporter of the elitist, arbitrary, power-hungry status quo. You're the one who supports unrighteous dominion, closed minds, and stupid rules. I'll proudly wear my badge that says "Banned from MAD", since getting kicked off a site like that is something we should all be doing.


So you believe that if another person starts an organization and invites others to join under the stipulation that they respect the person's rules, it is comparable to Ghandi's non-violent resistence to agree to those terms and then to ignore them? Are you joking?

liz3564 wrote:Mak---Please explain to me how she lied to you, or anyone else about what happened. It seems to me that she went into great detail about what happened. What am I missing?


Read back a few posts and you'll find the exchange where I asked this:

maklelan wrote:Have you attempted to register there under a false name after being kicked off?


She answered this:

harmony wrote:Nope.


I asked what happened and she told a long story that contained this little gem:

harmony wrote:When I asked how long I'd be on the Q, the PM from the mods was that I would never get off the Q. When I asked why, I was told it was because I was harmony. None of my posts ever made it out of the Q. So I re-registered, this time as Dill Pickles. I existed for several months as the Pickle, contributing my perspective in a very lowkey manner.


She openly lied to me, and then she exposed that lie without blinking an eye. Her arguments are a joke and now she's comparing her breaking the rules that she agreed to obey on another person's board to Ghandi. That's a joke, and nothing more. I've tried repeatedly to engage others in serious debate and to get them to engage my evidence, but there's been nothing but insults and ad hominem. The majority of the posters (the most prolific posters) are a joke. Their arguments are a joke and they refuse to respond when their evidence is questioned. I'm done with this board.
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maklelan wrote:...I've tried repeatedly to engage others in serious debate and to get them to engage my evidence, but there's been nothing but insults and ad hominem. The majority of the posters (the most prolific posters) are a joke. Their arguments are a joke and they refuse to respond when their evidence is questioned. I'm done with this board.


Wow, I think I said that exact same thing when I left the Fairboard. :o

No, but seriously, you just gotta lighten up man.

Also, I haven't read all of your posts, but there are some very knowledgable people here - you just haven't found the right subject yet i guess. I know there's a few experts on the Book of Mormon (beastie, the dude, sorry if i'm leaving people out here), while others enjoy the book of abraham, adam god, etc. I remember talking with you on the fairboard about nahom - that was enlightening.

Just take a chill pill - start a subject about something - and you may or may not get any interest. Also, feel free to ignore whatever you want to ignore (ad hominems in your words). People are gonna say what they're gonna say - but usually, people can see through the bullsh!t, and recognize a good argument when they see it.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
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That's probably a good idea. I'll see what happens.
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Who Knows wrote:
maklelan wrote:...I've tried repeatedly to engage others in serious debate and to get them to engage my evidence, but there's been nothing but insults and ad hominem. The majority of the posters (the most prolific posters) are a joke. Their arguments are a joke and they refuse to respond when their evidence is questioned. I'm done with this board.


Wow, I think I said that exact same thing when I left the Fairboard. :o

No, but seriously, you just gotta lighten up man.

Also, I haven't read all of your posts, but there are some very knowledgable people here - you just haven't found the right subject yet i guess. I know there's a few experts on the Book of Mormon (beastie, the dude, sorry if i'm leaving people out here), while others enjoy the book of abraham, adam god, etc. I remember talking with you on the fairboard about nahom - that was enlightening.

Just take a chill pill - start a subject about something - and you may or may not get any interest. Also, feel free to ignore whatever you want to ignore (ad hominems in your words). People are gonna say what they're gonna say - but usually, people can see through the bullsh!t, and recognize a good argument when they see it.


Hi Mak! :)

These are wise words from my friend, here.

This is, admittedly, a different board from MAD/FAIR. It reminds me more of a bull session or an office social as opposed to a more stuffy scholastic atmosphere. Accept the different dynamics and have fun with it.

Jersey Girl, EE, and I have started a pretty good discussion in the Celestial Forum on the Gnostic Gospels. Feel free to join in! :)
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