The Responsibility of Church Leaders....

[_barrelomonkeys]

It depends on what you make of the Eden story. I believe in science, and I believe in evolution. I suspect that the Eden story was something quite different from the way fundamentalist Protestants (and many Mormons) understand it.

A topic for an interesting discussion. One that I won't have here.

Sorry to hear that.

I always thought that belief in a God creating humankind and evolution weren't necessarily incompatible, and that Mormonism already had theological elements compatible with this argument (a god bound by natural laws, creating by organizing matter, etc. would seem to fit with a propostion that evolution was the process by which god "created" man, adam being, then, the first "entirely human" being...).

I was rather surprised I didn't encounter this idea or one like it in seminary, sunday school or elsewhere at church. Perhaps it is made now?

I don't believe they're incompatible either Blixa. I'm agnostic and can't say with any certainty that God did not put everything into motion. I just don't subscribe to the timeline and a literal reading of the Bible. I don't think evolution or science really has anything to do with God. I just think when some people say that Dinosaurs roamed in the Garden of Eden (according to the timeline of the Bible) then they're ignoring some pretty hard scientific facts.

[_Blixa]

It depends on what you make of the Eden story. I believe in science, and I believe in evolution. I suspect that the Eden story was something quite different from the way fundamentalist Protestants (and many Mormons) understand it.

A topic for an interesting discussion. One that I won't have here.

Sorry to hear that.

I always thought that belief in a God creating humankind and evolution weren't necessarily incompatible, and that Mormonism already had theological elements compatible with this argument (a god bound by natural laws, creating by organizing matter, etc. would seem to fit with a propostion that evolution was the process by which god "created" man, adam being, then, the first "entirely human" being...).

I was rather surprised I didn't encounter this idea or one like it in seminary, sunday school or elsewhere at church. Perhaps it is made now?

I don't believe they're incompatible either Blixa. I'm agnostic and can't say with any certainty that God did not put everything into motion. I just don't subscribe to the timeline and a literal reading of the Bible. I don't think evolution or science really has anything to do with God. I just think when some people say that Dinosaurs roamed in the Garden of Eden (according to the timeline of the Bible) then they're ignoring some pretty hard scientific facts.

Oh don't mistake me, barrel; I think you know I'm an athiest. I think one can jerry-rig evolution and God even if I don't want to.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Wow! I was not aware of this. From posting on MAD I thought most LDS did not believe in a literal garden of eden. I'm really surprised by this.

Let's back up a little. The people on MAD are what's called "Internet Mormons." They differ quite vastly from the "Chapel Mormons" which make up at least 95% of the rest of Mormondom.

To better get a grasp of the situation, I recommend reading Internet Mormons vs. Chapel Mormons before your next visit to MAD.

I've taken the Shades quiz. I come out of it as a "chapel Mormon."

Yet, I suspect, I'm supposed to be the quintessential "internet Mormon."

His "vast" dichotomy is bogus.

Is your home teaching 100% for the month yet?

[_Polygamy Porter]

Are you bitter about this Harmony because your true and faithful husband will undoubtably be given a new and faithful wife (or wives) when he receives his exaltation? All this while you, who preach against the gospel of Christ, receive a lesser portion of salvation?

I can see where that could stick in a bitter anti's craw.

Gaz, how does your wife feel about the image of you banging other women in the CK?

That is what is so hil-friggin-larious about most TBM women. They stand in Relief Society and pontificate about how lucky they are to have such a wonderful eternal priesthood man in this life and the one to follow.

Most do not have a clue that they will have to wait in line with the rest of his wives! Talk about being put down below the man.

[_Jason Bourne]

Are you bitter about this Harmony because your true and faithful husband will undoubtably be given a new and faithful wife (or wives) when he receives his exaltation? All this while you, who preach against the gospel of Christ, receive a lesser portion of salvation?

I can see where that could stick in a bitter anti's craw.

Oh puuuuhlease. Go crawl back to your cave Gaz. It is the 21st century not BYs day any more.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Oh puuuuhlease. Go crawl back to your cave Gaz. It is the 21st century not BYs day any more.

Careful there, Gaz just might get assigned the wife of a half believer.

[_Jason Bourne]

Careful there, Gaz just might get assigned the wife of a half believer.

I am not to worried as I am certain this dogma he is spouting is false.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Careful there, Gaz just might get assigned the wife of a half believer.

I am not to worried as I am certain this dogma he is spouting is false.

Then why does the official bookstore of LDS Inc still sell the book it was published in?

[_Jason Bourne]

Careful there, Gaz just might get assigned the wife of a half believer.

I am not to worried as I am certain this dogma he is spouting is false.

Then why does the official bookstore of LDS Inc still sell the book it was published in?

I am not sure which book but unfortunatly they did not ask me about it.

[_Polygamy Porter]

I am not sure which book but unfortunately they did not ask me about it.

"When the wife is faithful and desires to obey the divine law and the husband is rebellious, or unwilling to obey the will of the Lord, if she maintains her integrity to the best of her ability, she will be given to another husband in eternity and will receive all the blessings of the celestial kingdom" Joseph Fielding Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, 3:24.

Given to another HUSBAND, indicates he already has a wife, therefore by being ASSIGNED another woman will make him a polygamist.

For barrel-o-monkies and those lurkers who don't know who Joseph Fielding Smith was, he was the tenth prophet of LDS Inc from 1970 to 1972.

He wrote the above quote while serving as the PRESIDENT of the of The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles..

But cafeteria Mormons like Jason will dismiss his writings as fraudulent.

Gaz do you have any openings for another wife in the CK?