Porter's Skepticism

[_Polygamy Porter]

The good thing about being a Mormon and living in a trailer is you can switch wards without switching homes.

If you don't like your current ward, just pop those som'bitchin wheels back on, plug in the tail lights, unhook the crapper, water, and electricity and drive to a ward that you like.

Hell, out in the midwest, I hear you can just about park your trailer anywhere you find an open field.

I forgot that the ward boundaries out there can be 20-30 miles apart, so a little planning would be a good idea before you go slappin those som'bitchin wheels on and driving your home all over hell's half acre..

[_Gazelam]

You forgot to give Porter his medicine before you tried to focus him onto a single train of thought.

[_barrelomonkeys]

I just want to say that I think any person that grew up in a foster home had a harder childhood than I did. I can't look at PP's avatar without thinking of his childhood. I grew up without my biological parents and understand how hard that is... but I was adopted. My husband was deserted and then became a foster kid. It is something he rarely talks about and is something that is incredibly painful. I would think not many of us on this board grew up in that sort of atmosphere of not having loving parents raising us.

My .02

[_gramps]

Mercury wrote:

Abuse has many justifications the abuser uses to break the child. Many use false symbols of authority and bulls*** systems of control that criple a childs defense mechanisms. I guess you don't know what its like knowing what suicidal thoughts feel like when you are 9.

Did this really start this young, Merc?

It happened to me too. Just after getting baptized I became very unhappy. I didn't know why. I remember putting a knife to my stomach, but chickened out and then in my chest of drawers, right where my mom put away my folded laundry, I carved into the drawer "I hate you." Nothing was ever said by her or me and it stayed there until I went on my mission. Then I scratched it out.

What in the hell was happening back then?

[_Mercury]

Mercury wrote:

Abuse has many justifications the abuser uses to break the child. Many use false symbols of authority and bulls*** systems of control that criple a childs defense mechanisms. I guess you don't know what its like knowing what suicidal thoughts feel like when you are 9.

Did this really start this young, Merc?

Yes, I was that young. I remember thinking it was the only way to escape a world in which I was told I was the evil spawn of an exmormon. My father having married a nutjob psycho who controlled her evil stepchildren through violence and requirements of conditional love was a large contribution to my emotional state as well.

[_Yoda]

Yes, I was that young. I remember thinking it was the only way to escape a world in which I was told I was the evil spawn of an exmormon. My father having married a nutjob psycho who controlled her evil stepchildren through violence and requirements of conditional love was a large contribution to my emotional state as well.

My heart literally lurches when you talk about your childhood. It is beyond my comprehension how anyone could be so cruel to a child. I am so sorry for what you had to go through.

It sounds like you're a wonderful Dad and husband. And, you have been able to develop a relationship with your biological Mom. I'm so happy that you "hung in there" and were able to rise above life's difficulties.

I have a lot of respect for you.

[_Mercury]

My heart literally lurches when you talk about your childhood. It is beyond my comprehension how anyone could be so cruel to a child. I am so sorry for what you had to go through.

It sounds like you're a wonderful Dad and husband. And, you have been able to develop a relationship with your biological Mom. I'm so happy that you "hung in there" and were able to rise above life's difficulties.

I have a lot of respect for you.

I did what I had to do to get by. The depression and total detachment from the world around me was a coping mechanism. It was as if I shuffled from home to school and back home again in a haze.

I have tried to write up a synopsis of my upbringing in the past but there are so many angles to it that it makes it very difficult.

[_Jason Bourne]

What was the SIXTH point of fellowship in the hug at the veil pre 1990?

Jersey Girl

You really want to engage this blathering angry ex mo fool? He is not capable of civil reasonable dialogue about the LDS Church. He is angry. He hates the LDS Church but loves it at the same time. He cannot leave it alone all the while proclaiming to be free of what he perceives as its evil suppressive clutches. It is clear to me and most others who are rational that you are well informed about the LDS Church and like to probe to stir up debate. It is also clear that you do not believe the claims of the LDS Church nor would you consider the LDS Church per say a Chrisitan Church (which you would be wrong about) but think many LDS people are Christians.

So we know you. PP is just a poor fool in deep need of therapy so he can really move on in his life.

[_Mercury]

So we know you. PP is just a poor fool in deep need of therapy so he can really move on in his life.

Yes Jason, and you are here why? I can use the same reasoning for your involvement.

This board IS therapy for many of us recovering from YEARS of emotional, financial and spiritual abuse at the hands of an authoritarian regime.

One day when your balls are recovered you will understand this. Hell, I bet you understand this now but your unable to act due to your situation. I feel for ya.

Still pulling for you Jason. Get out while you still can. That being said, I understand if your wife would divorce you if you did.

[_Jason Bourne]

What was the SIXTH point of fellowship in the hug at the veil pre 1990?

See Jersey Girl,

He is playing you. There was no SIXTH point.